Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 More deets tk.Tests positive for douchiness?
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Who the hell needs an ulnar collateral ligament anyway.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Noooooooooooooo! Why is it that we can't keep pitchers healthy? Or does everyone have these problems?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 CBS Sports wrote:According to WFAN's Mike Francesa, Mets ace Matt Harvey is headed to the disabled list with a partially torn ulnar collateral ligament. Such an injury, of course, often leads to Tommy John surgery. Marc Carig of Newsday originally reported that Harvey underwent an MRI on Monday morning.Harvey, age 24, has pitched to a 2.27 ERA (159 ERA+), 0.931 WHIP and 6.16 K/BB ratio in this, his first full season at the major-league level. He was of course the NL starting pitcher for All-Star Game at Citi Field in July.The Mets for some time have planned to shut down Harvey at around the 200-inning mark (he's presently at 178 1/3). Now, though, losing Harvey for merely the rest of 2013 is probably a best-case scenario.According to WFAN's Mike Francesa, Mets ace Matt Harvey is headed to the disabled list with a partially torn ulnar collateral ligament. Such an injury, of course, often leads to Tommy John surgery. Marc Carig of Newsday originally reported that Harvey underwent an MRI on Monday morning.Harvey, age 24, has pitched to a 2.27 ERA (159 ERA+), 0.931 WHIP and 6.16 K/BB ratio in this, his first full season at the major-league level. He was of course the NL starting pitcher for All-Star Game at Citi Field in July.The Mets for some time have planned to shut down Harvey at around the 200-inning mark (he's presently at 178 1/3). Now, though, losing Harvey for merely the rest of 2013 is probably a best-case scenario.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 are you fuckin kiddin me? Gdamn. Now this sucks.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Was it Ashie who used to say that Citi Field was built on an Indian burial ground? I'm starting to wonder.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 I thought it was built on the Shea Stadium parking lot.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 The strangest part is that Mike Francesa had a scoop.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 While this certainly sounds bad, I'm waiting to hear this confirmed by somebody other than Mike Francesa.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 This is about the worst news Mets fans could have heard. Pretty much a final "fuck you" to cap off another lost season only this one threatens to de-rail the franchise for the next few years as well.Put Wheeler and Niese in bubble-wrap until spring training, we're done here.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 G-Fafif wrote:The strangest part is that Mike Francesa had a scoop.He's like Hovvey's best buddy.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 While this certainly sounds bad, I'm waiting to hear this confirmed by somebody other than Mike Francesa.ESPN cites a "team source":Matt Harvey has tear in elbowNew York Mets starter Matt Harvey has a partial UCL tear in his elbow and is headed for the disabled list, according to a team source.It is not certain if Harvey will have to go undergo Tommy John surgery, the source said.Harvey was 9-5 in 2013 with a 2.27 ERA and 191 strikeouts, good for fourth in the league.He started July's All-Star Game for the National League.Information from ESPNNewYork.com's Adam Rubin was used in this report.http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9602399/matt-harvey-new-york-mets-partial-tear-elbow-source-says_________That's what I first thought after the initial shock of the injury: Mike Francesca?
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Whatever. Just give him the Tommy John surgery now and let's be done with it.Stephen Strasburg had it in 2010. Missed 2011, came back stronger 2012 by which time the Nationals had also assembled a quality ballclub and they went to the playoffs.Unless the Mets were going to be signing tons of free agents, we weren't going to be ready to compete in 2014 anyway. But we had best be ready for 2015 when Harvey returns. That's plenty of time for Fred and Sandy to get their act together.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 batmagadanleadoff wrote:The amazing things is that Tom's only big injury with the Mets was his hip. right? Bring back Rube Walker and Tom McKenna.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 word is they will determine treatment over coming weeks.My feeling is, that's the risk with young pitchers. They break their elbows and your hearts.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 ... and the harder they throw, the greater the risk.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 The Baseball Gods have been unmercifully cruel to the Mets in recent years, haven't they?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 The bad thing about injured elbows is that when that ligament (completely) tears the only solution is replacement surgery and the rehab time from it is lengthy.The good thing about injured elbows is that they're not injured shoulders. Injuries to those are much more complicated and the recovery less certain and predictable.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Have it now. Be ready for the stretch drive in September next year.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:G-Fafif wrote:The strangest part is that Mike Francesa had a scoop.He's like Hovvey's best buddy.Mushnick has pointed out on a number of occasions that originally (like right about a year ago now - he noted the "anniversary" just the other day) Francesa was trashing Harvey as just another over-hyped figment of the Mets and NYM fan's imagination, making his 'I noticed him first' campaign nothing more than a classic example of selective memory.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 USA Today wrote:The New York Mets were dealt a blow today.Matt Harvey has a partially torn ulnar collateral ligament and was placed on the disabled list."It was the last thing I expected," said Harvey, who had an MRI on his right elbow this morning. "I was shocked at the news."There is a chance this injury could lead to Tommy John surgery. But Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said that won't be known until the swelling goes down.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Have the surgery and see you in 2015.....it sucks but it seems inevitable.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Some tears are more minor than others. There's no need to rush into anything just yet.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Let's focus on the positive....Let me know if you find anything.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 26, 2013 Posted August 26, 2013 Dating supermodels, posing in the buff for a magazine spread, tearing your UCL. Should anybody be surprised that one should follow the others sure as fall follows spring and summer? It's such an obvious downfall that I'd expect it from Cole Hamels.(Still processing.)
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