Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 This was all an elaborate ruse orchestrated by the Mets to limit Harvey's innings while not seeming like timid little bunny rabbits. Terry Collins is ashamed he participated and will tell all, sooner rather than later. Mark my words.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 ...a single young douchey attention-starved pitcher like Harvey.Really Jon? you want to go there? so soon? no Honeymoon period? Just "Harvey's a dick" right off the bat?man.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Edgy MD wrote:This was all an elaborate ruse orchestrated by the Mets to limit Harvey's innings while not seeming like timid little bunny rabbits. Terry Collins is ashamed he participated and will tell all, sooner rather than later. Mark my words.Harvey...rabbit...and now THIS damning evidence!42? You mean like the number innings the Mets shaved off Harvey's 2013?Oh, you've stumbled onto something nefarious here.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 I'm glad. He may ultimately miss a year, but maybe he won't. And there's no saying whether that future year will be more or less important than 2014. He may not even be a Met anymore if and when the elbow ultimately goes bad.Take the bird in the hand. Pitch in 2014! I approve.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Vic Sage wrote:...a single young douchey attention-starved pitcher like Harvey.Really Jon? you want to go there? so soon? no Honeymoon period? Just "Harvey's a dick" right off the bat?man.Where have you been? I sussed out this guy's gigantic ego and smug puss in his first or second start, long before he pulled into spring training in an Escalade or posed naked in any number of fashion magazines. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing for a jock to be selfish jerk!I am concerned that Met Nation (and Media Nation) falls for it.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 oh i know you've been banging this drum from day 1. but i thought you were kidding... mostly. you had the same issues with David Wright and RA Dickey as i recall. maybe i'm misremembering. Anyway, the only thing we need to "fall for" is 261 Ks (and only 56 BBs) in 237 innings, with an ERA+ of 151 to date. If he can keep that up, he can be a cross between Clemens, Kingman, Dixie Walker and Jeffrey Dahmer for all i care. By the way, Seaver is a major asshole too, by all reports, and i think there should be a golden idol forged in his name, with ritual sacrifices on its altar before any post-season games.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Totally agree on the Seaver parallel.I got nothing against David Wright though. He's no douche.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 David Wright's wishes and heartfelt concern are the only things that have kept me married.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 his farts heal leprosy.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Edgy MD wrote:David Wright's wishes and heartfelt concern are the only things that have kept me married.that surely took a lot, considering how anthony recker threatened to tear it all apart.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Vic Sage wrote:his farts heal leprosy.Oh, don't be ridiculous, man. They're a leprosy palliative.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Harvey douches out in interview: http://deadspin.com/matt-harveys-interview-with-dan-patrick-got-real-awkwa-1341644182?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 So, the Mets day this�Based on this MRI and a subsequent clinical examination, Mets physicians determined that a surgical repair would likely be necessary, unless Matt could complete a throwing program free of elbow related symptoms.�That's part of the statement.... Davidoff is the Post thinks the Mets are pissed.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2013/09/18/the-harvey-decision-why-not/Megdal sez Harvey did the right thing, and sez so without mentioning the you know, the $320M debt looming soon for the Mets owners.
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Can someone tell me who the heck Megdal is and what theobsession with him is?
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Kong76 wrote:Can someone tell me who the heck Megdal is and what theobsession with him is?Journalist/blogger that has been one of the "front men" in terms of scathing pieces (including an e-book) about the Wilpons dealings with Madoff and how it has affected the Mets.The obsession is, as far as I can tell, that he very rarely, if ever, has produced a positive piece about the direction of the Mets since the scandal of the Mets' involvement with Madoff broke.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 The obsession is another matter.
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Edgy MD wrote:The obsession is another matter.And Bingo was his name-o!
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Kong76 wrote:Edgy MD wrote:The obsession is another matter.And Bingo was his name-o!
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Bad hair day!batmagadanleadoff wrote:
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Tommy John surgery for the Schaefer Pitcher of the Year, SNY reports.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 That was a quick decision? , he rested, tried rehab and it didn't work I guess?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah, they were talking about waiting until around Dec 1 to make a decision so the timing is a bit surprising even if the ultimate decision is not.
dinosaur jesus Old-Timey Member Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 The right choice. And good to get it done sooner than later.Damn, that was a nice ride. He might come back strong, but who knows when we'll see something like that again. Next year, Noah?
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 There's still time for a career in mobile phone sales.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 AldersonST. LOUIS -- Mets ace Matt Harvey will undergo surgery this month to repair a partially torn ligament in his right elbow, a decision that will knock him out for the 2014 season. Dr. James Andrews will perform the surgery, which the team announced on Friday afternoon.Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said during a conference call Friday that Harvey had time to think about his decision and that Harvey became less emotional about making the call.Alderson said he intentionally stayed away from Harvey so he could decide himself on surgery. "I was uncomfortable possibly trying to persuade him one way or another," he said.Initially, Harvey, 24, planned to attempt a rehab program over the next seven weeks with the hopes of strengthening his elbow enough to pitch in 2014.However, rehab also carried some risk. Had Harvey completely torn his ulnar collateral ligament after rehab, he would have been forced to undergo surgery, sidelining him even longer."I felt this would be the right decision so in that sense I'm happy that Matt has reached that same conclusion," Alderson said.Though expected, the news is a major blow for the Mets, who will lose their rising star just as the team hoped to finally return to postseason contention."This doesn't really change our planning at all but it does provide some clarity of course that we didn't have," Alderson said.Alderson said he was optimistic about Harvey's candidacy for successful surgery because of his age, strength, stability and mechanics.Alderson said that it's possible that the Mets call up prospects Noah Syndergaard, Jacob deGrom or Rafael Montero to take Harvey's place, but that such a scenario was not preferred.In his first full season, Harvey went 9-5 with a 2.27 ERA while earning the start in the All-Star Game at Citi Field.Alderson confirmed that Harvey had yet to begin throwing during his rehab program.Cardinals ace Adam Wainwright faced a similar fate. The pitcher partially tore a ligament in his elbow twice. Both times he rehabbed and pitched through the injury -- a partial tear -- just as Harvey hoped to do.But the ligament eventually tore completely, forcing him to undergo surgery. Wainwright missed all of 2011 but has since regained his form. He went 19-9 with a 2.94 ERA this season while logging 241 2/3 innings. He cited what he believed to be a 90 percent success rate with elbow surgeries."You have to come out of that with a positive mindset," said Wainwright, who dominated the Pirates in Game 1 of the NLDS on Thursday. "If you're worried about 10 percent, then you don't have right outlook going into that rehab."However, Wainwright said he understood Harvey's reason for exploring rehab."You don't just do surgery if you don't need it," Wainwright said. "If he's just decided [to undergo surgery], hopefully he needs it because there is that 10 percent."
Guest d'Kong76 Guests Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 Surgery sooner than later is probably best. Hope the surgeon can make him less of a dick too.
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