Memories of Noah Syndergaard

[seawolf17]

I am stunned.

[Bob Alpacadaca]

Assuming the reports are true and Syndergaard is an Angel, what's our next step?



That sure doe free up money for Stroman or another pitcher. Or do we go for a trade?

[bmfc1]

Mets get an extra draft pick between the 2d and 3d rounds.

[bLOCKQUOTE]“It would be a tough pill to swallow not wearing the Mets jersey next year,” Syndergaard said in early October.[/bLOCKQUOTE]

FU and good riddance. The Mets get an extra pick, don't have the risk associated w/him rehabbing on their time, and have (even) more $ for a healthy pitcher.

Edited November 16, 2021 by Guest

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

That's kinda shitty news

[Bob Alpacadaca]

Did the Mets even get a chance to make a counter offer? Or, is this something that happens when you don't have a GM in place?

[ashie62]

FU Noah. Mr. stay a Met my azz.

[kcmets]

https://www.sny.tv/articles/noah-syndergaard-angels-11-16-21Noah Syndergaard agrees to deal with Angels: report -- SNY

[A Boy Named Seo]

Yikes. deGrom, Carrasco, Walker, Megill, Peterson... Seems the Mets don't want to surrender draft picks, so I'd bet against pursuits of Robbie Ray and Justin Verlander.



I'd definitely try to re-sign Stro first. If the Mets don't wanna give up chips to trade for Luis Castillo, fuck it, go for Max. Less sexy backup: Kevin Gausman. I already miss Noah.

[ashie62]

I am keeping my expectations in check.



Gausman is a fine pick.

[MFS62]

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Assuming the reports are true and Syndergaard is an Angel, what's our next step? That sure doe free up money for Stroman or another pitcher. Or do we go for a trade?

Why not more than one move?

This staff needs reliable, healthy starters.



Later

[Ceetar]

That draft pick is worth like 5X value!

[Ceetar]

There's probably some dirt behind the scenes here, but this is a huge blow to a team that already needed good pitching.

[Lefty Specialist]

Many moves are needed. And all without a GM.



Ya know, for less than a $3 million difference, Thor could have stayed and built his value here. This kind of reinforces that the Mets are not a destination people want to go to. It also ups the ante for spending this offseason.

[smg58]

He was one of many starting pitchers on the market, most of whom gave their team more than two innings last year. We could get a high pick plus an at least comparable pitcher out of this. I certainly wouldn't have beaten the Angels' offer.

[smg58]

Stroman is a must, plus one more. Preferably somebody with a track record of health who is capable of 200 innings, because I still believe that is valuable.

[Edgy MD]

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Did the Mets even get a chance to make a counter offer? Or, is this something that happens when you don't have a GM in place?

I would guess that President Sandy had (or assumed) the authority to deal if that was what he wanted. I would guess, but I don't know.



Syndergaard in Anaheim is kind of funny, as (a) the name evokes Norse mythology* giving him ample opportunity to advance his dumb Thor brand, and ( it's a good setup for the film career he's angling for.



* In Michael Chabon's Summerland, one of the characters is an MLB player — a Cuban defector who starred for the Mets but signed a big contract to jump to the Angels, and is having a mid-life crisis, feeling like a soul-less fraud living in a gated community and DH-ing for a living. His home turns out to be the end of a branch of the great tree of existence that is Yggdrasil.

[Fman99]

Boy we need Stroman now more than ever.

[Edgy MD]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Many moves are needed. And all without a GM. Ya know, for less than a $3 million difference, Thor could have stayed and built his value here. This kind of reinforces that the Mets are not a destination people want to go to. It also ups the ante for spending this offseason.

I wouln't make much of that. Re-signing with the Mets wouldn't have made them a destination so much as a continuation at the same stop. Familiarity equals contempt, but it's more like $3 million = $3 million. The guy may never sign another contract and I'm sure he's been told that. Gotta gets that money while the money is good.

[Frayed Knot]

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This staff needs reliable, healthy starters.

[Fman99]

I feel like a jilted ex-girlfriend. God dammit.

[Centerfield]

A one year deal at $21M is a safer bet than the multi year contract they have to give to his replacement.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

We almost contended without him twice already.



Hopefully we spend that $$ on something good. Was thinking that Stroman was the important guy to re-sign

[duan]

I'm down but jeez - 21.5 million is a lot for them to pay.

Only thing here that's interesting is that it's pending a physical. They've got a day or two to do that, and if they don't like the results Noah can still take the QO - then you feel dumb for making the QO.



You do have to think the whole not having a GM thing kinda helped this happen.

[metsmarathon]

i think we could do worse than gausman. granted, gausman can do worse than gausman. but it feels like he's maybe finally putting it all together. i wouldn't go super-crazy on him, but i would definitely like to bring him in. or, y'know, scherzer would be fine too.



but yeah, we gotta make sure to get stroman back at a minimum.



I'm very cautious about expecting anything out of degrom right now. i'd need to be convinced otherwise, and think the mets should build their rotation as if he's not there. and if he's healthy and available and degrominant, then we just move peterson/megill to the lower levels of the depth chart.

[metsmarathon]

well... i think i might have a new angels fan in the household. damnit. i was really hoping we'd be able to keep him. sentimentally, of course.

[metsmarathon]

it might go totally against "get someone healthy" but would you consider kershaw? he doesn't have the QO attachment that gausman has. i also just read that we would lose the 14th pick which, well, is a significant factor.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Gausman doesn't have the QO either. I think of available starters, only Ray and Verlander (and Eduardo Rodriguez who already signed with DET) had those attached.

[metsmarathon]

ooh, did not know that about gausman. go get him!



fangraphs fwiw has rated the top 50 free agents and has pitchers in the following spots:



4. scherzer

7. Ray (QO)

8. Stroman

[CROSSOUT]13. rosario (QO)[/CROSSOUT]

14. gausman

[CROSSOUT]15. Syndergaard (QO)[/CROSSOUT]

17. Rodon

18. kershaw

19. verlander (QO)

31. matz

32. gray

35. Kim

36. DeSclafani

37. kluber

38. cobb

40. grienke

47. pineda

50. kikuchi

[Lefty Specialist]

I'm pessimistic about deGrom, which is why this one hurts. I'm tired of the "I'm completely fine, I just can't pitch" routine.

[Centerfield]

Every pitcher that can reasonably be expected to be as good as Syndergaard will cost more than what it took to sign Syndergaard.