RealityChuck Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 https://nypost.com/2019/03/30/ron-darling-lenny-dykstras-racist-tirade-helped-mets-win-world-series/https://nypost.com/2019/03/30/ron-darling-lenny-dykstras-racist-tirade-helped-mets-win-world-series/Briefly, Ron Darling writes that Dykstra shouted a bunch of racist taunts at Oil Can Boyd when he was on deck for the third game of the 1986 WS.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 To quote Billy Wagner, fuckin' shocker.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 No, that's pretty much the asshole I imagined.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 The freakin balls on that guy. To shout racist taunts with Doc, Darryl, Mookie, Mitch right there in the dugout?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 The freakin' balls on the Mets brass not to get rid of him 10 minutes after the World Series.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 Edgy MD wrote:The freakin' balls on the Mets brass not to get rid of him 10 minutes after the World Series.They were too busy shipping out Kevin Mitchell for racist reasons.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 Straw, Mitch and Dykstra. That woulda been some damn outfield late 80s-early 90s.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 Edgy MD wrote:No, that's pretty much the asshole I imagined.Exactly. I don't think it would be possible for him to be more of an asshole than we imagine.Later
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Lenny is a wanker I am sure, Darling too, selling a book ? it was so obvious after he came back to Twitter from a break he was selling something.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Lenny just looks stinky. Breath, butt, pits, you name it Plus Suzan walden called him a bucket of lust so what does that tell youDamn autocorrect changed her name three times
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 =metirish post_id=5861 time=1554144758 user_id=72]Lenny is a wanker I am sure, Darling too, selling a book ? it was so obvious after he came back to Twitter from a break he was selling something.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I think Keith did the same thing
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Well, when it's Lenny, I always imagine bad things. And he never disappoints.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Edgy MD wrote:No, that's pretty much the asshole I imagined.Exactly. I don't think it would be possible for him to be more of an asshole than we imagine.LaterHe was my favorite Met at the time, which just seems unfathomable now. But he's long past the point where anything about him would surprise me in a negative way.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Lenny was one of my favorites too. It's amazing how little we knew.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I think it was always pretty knowable that he was a chowderhead.That he turned out to be a barely civilized borderline sociopath was perhaps beyond what could be expected.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 It always makes a differences how old you are.When I worked for our local parks department, at around 19 or so, I guess, I had to manicure the department's only MLB regulation-sized field. The Mets were sending a group to do a clinic for our local Little Leaguers.I had been around (I was 19!) so I knew we'd get the guys at the end of the bench. But somehow, word had gotten around that Dykstra was going to be there. He wasn't, of course, but we got every 10-14 year old boy from four towns around packing the field to the point of danger, all for a clinic put on by Bill Robinson, Mel Stottlemyer, Rafael Santana and (I think) Randy Niemann.I saw a friend of my mother's who was from two towns over, and she explained to me that she had brought her 13-year-old to see Dykstra, and he was heartbroken, but still an hour into the clinic, there was this buzz going that he might still arrive.All I could think was, "That douchebag is the phoniest player in the league, — at least, now that everybody knows the truth about Pete Rose." I found it unfathomable that nobody else could see through him. But these were boys. White boys who had a super-athletic, dirty, over-hyped white centerfielder that they could identify with. He even had a boyish stature. Half of them were wearing his number, and some were wearing eye-black (to an evening clinic).I realized then that I might have fallen for him when I was younger too. I kinda, sorta, mostly fell for Lee Mazzilli. But Dykstra seemed to be working a hustle from the day he arrived. (Talk about making the easy plays look hard.)It's a shame, too. He really was that great an athlete. Despite being from Southern Cal (and being a Floridian in spirit), he was actually from a hockey family, and three of his uncles played in the NHL.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 I had no idea. I was 11 in '86 (I don't remember him doing much in '85). And generally even immature as far as 11 year olds go. Lenny was a little guy like me. He was a fast leadoff guy, played centerfield and even hit left-handed. I even tried out his stance for a while until my coach made me stop.I had no clue. I couldn't tell who was a jerk and who was nice. If you told me Tim Teufel was out womanizing and getting into fights I would have believed that. But they were Mets, so that meant they were all awesome to me.I think Jeff Kent was the first Met that made me think this guy might be kind of a dick. I would have been in HS by then.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Yeah, that adds up.Of course, Teufel was getting into at least https://www.nytimes.com/1986/07/20/sports/4-mets-arrested-in-fight.htmlone fight in 1986.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Meanwhile, Straw refutes the story. Says he roomed with Lenny in the minors and Lenny "doesn't have a racist bone in his body."Who was it that made the racist femur joke a while ago? Per John Harper on twitter.
Johnny Lunchbucket Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 I love Darryl but don't believe anything he says.I like that we're evolving sensitivities as a society but makes it really hard to contextualize what was "normal" for the eras
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 If I had to guess, I'd say yes, this definitely happened, but that this type of thing was a lot more common than Ron would have you believe, but maybe Lenny took it a step further because he's Lenny.I used to hear stupid shit from opposing players all the time and this was during middle school and HS.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 As part of his publicity tour, Ron guested on Darren Meenan's (the 7 Line Guy) Orange and Blue Thing, a fine podcast with a video component (Darling had Darren to his house to tape it). At one point, Ronnie was asked about his playing career ending and prefaced his answer by saying there are two names he'll never forget, "Julio Vazquez" being the first of them. Who the hell was that, I wondered. Does he mean Javier Vazquez? What does Javier Vazquez have to do with Ron Darling?Ron identified Julio Vazquez as the pitcher who took his place in the Mets' rotation. Oh, I realized, he means Julio Valera, sort of deflating the claim that his is a name Darling will never forget.My hunch (from thirteen years of SNY, besides the above anecdote) is Ronnie doesn't have the most amazing retention of detail, and given that Dykstra no doubt said disgusting stuff regularly, it may be hard to pin down exactly when and where Dykstra uttered a particularly disgusting remark. It might have been in the on-deck circle before Game Three of the World Series. It might have been some other time about some other person. It's more than thirty years ago. Who remembers?"Nailed" by Christopher Frankie, which came out in 2013, detailed that among other fine qualities, Dykstra's skeletal structure includes quite a few racist bones.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 I was kind of annoyed that Darling wrote a book about how much he regrets his performance in Game Seven of the 1986 World Series, which the Mets won, and didn't express any regret about his performance in Game Seven of the 1988 NLCS, which was much more damaging to his team.
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Dykstra phoned a radio show, refuted Darling's claims and https://nypost.com/2019/04/02/ron-darling-digs-in-lenny-dykstra-has-backers-as-fight-gets-ugly/says he plans to sue Darling and the book publisher.Lest your forget he's Lenny Dykstra and therefore a piece of shit, he added that he would “drop [Darling] like a red-headed fucking stepchild.”
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Benjamin Grimm wrote:I was kind of annoyed that Darling wrote a book about how much he regrets his performance in Game Seven of the 1986 World Series, which the Mets won, and didn't express any regret about his performance in Game Seven of the 1988 NLCS, which was much more damaging to his team.I don't think they win in 1988 even if Ron is on.
Bunt the First Two Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Well, some Mets take to brawlingAnd some Mets take to the blowSome Mets chase all the camerasAlways making a big showAnd some Mets will trash an airplaneOr kill a girlfriend's catFolks think that they're all assholesBut I'm a bigger 'hole than thatSome Mets will claim they're blackballedOr benched because of raceSome want to slug Tom NiedenfuerOr Davis in the faceSome Mets tear up CootersAnd knock a Houston cop out flatFolks say the Mets are assholesBut I'm a bigger 'hole than that I'm a showboat defender On an alcohol bender I'm laden down with gambling debts My habits, disgusting My cock, always thrusting And I think that I'm the face of the Mets I dive when I don't haveta I didn't vote for NAFTA I wrap my car around a pole My drugs give me a chubby I buy 'em from the clubby I'm a genuine five-tool HOLE!Some Mets will grow a mulletBut none more douchier than meSome Mets will cheat with PEDsBut I sell untainted peeI'd be better with PhilliesGetting jacked until I'm fat'Cuz if you think these Mets are assholesMan, I'm a bigger 'hole than that
LWFS Old-Timey Member Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 I mean, given just a little bit of debt-related pressure, the guy defrauded his mother to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars, without a second thought.Dykstra's long been in that figurative place in my mind (and, I think, in the public consciousness) that Bill Simmons used to call "The Tyson Zone." You could promulgate almost any story on earth about the guy's depravity, and I'd probably assume it was true.
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