Re-Sign Reyes NOW!!!!

[Centerfield]

Not at the break, not next week, not even tomorrow. NOW!!!!

[Gwreck]

Seconded. He's clearly fully healthy and productive.

[Edgy MD]

Ain't no big business going to happen until after that big chunk of the team gets sold off. That seems to be the way it is. Good news is that that seems to be a matter of weeks.

[Edgy MD]

Oh, and a brain-dead article from Forbes disagrees with you.

[Centerfield]

I don't think I've ever felt compelled to punch someone in the neck (like FMan) until now.

Douchebag.

[Frayed Knot]

Centerfield wrote: Not at the break, not next week, not even tomorrow. NOW!!!!

Not tomorrow, not after breakfast, ... NOW!!!!
Hey, maybe she knows. What say you there fuzzy britches?

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Ain't no big business going to happen until after that big chunk of the team gets sold off. That seems to be the way it is. Good news is that that seems to be a matter of weeks.

A team with Reyes on it is more valuable. So being able to resign him immediately after instantly provides return on investment right?

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: Oh, and a brain-dead article from Forbes disagrees with you.

OK, I'm markedly dumber now than I was five minutes ago for having read that.
The only saving grace is that it didn't reflexively cite the "Moneyball front office" and Jose's dearth of walks as proof of future incompatibility.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Oh, and a brain-dead article from Forbes disagrees with you. OK, I'm markedly dumber now than I was five minutes ago for having read that. The only saving grace is that it didn't reflexively cite the "Moneyball front office" and Jose's dearth of walks as proof of future incompatibility.

Actually, it implies that the Moneyball front office is the only reason they're going to do it, but they should've done it anyway.


What are these people going to write when they do resign Reyes?

[Edgy MD]

Somebody has to write a counter-article.

I mean, it's fucking Forbes. Where do they get off being so willfully stupid?

[Edgy MD]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Ain't no big business going to happen until after that big chunk of the team gets sold off. That seems to be the way it is. Good news is that that seems to be a matter of weeks. A team with Reyes on it is more valuable. So being able to resign him immediately after instantly provides return on investment right?

The Mets are a team with Reyes on it. A team that is most valuable is one with Reyes on it and the potential of re-signing him.

To a fan, it's one thing. To an investor, as soon as the contract gets locked in --- with big number outlays that one's accountants get to measure against projected revenues --- it's another matter.

Cohen, if indeed he is our buyer, is a lifelong fan and therefore we can hope hope he's an advocate for Reyes being extended. But as long as that's a potential deal and not an actual one, the sale can be made with the possiblity that any such deal will be made on terms most advantageous to the Mets.

Its just a sports business reality. Teams, usually the wealthier ones, tend to hold the line on payroll before a sale --- and poorer teams slash it to bits.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Somebody has to write a counter-article. I mean, it's fucking Forbes. Where do they get off being so willfully stupid?

http://www.tedquarters.net/2011/05/07/i-cant-even-muster-up-the-strength/

It 's nothing great, but it is calling it out as stupid. Ted wrote a resign reyes now post earlier this week.

[ashie62]

Can the Mets keep both Jose Reyes and David Wright long term?

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd vote for that.

[Ceetar]

Ashie62 wrote: Can the Mets keep both Jose Reyes and David Wright long term?

If they can't, it's time to contract

[metsmarathon]

when was the last time you saw someone slide feet-first into third for a triple?

[ashie62]

metsmarathon wrote: when was the last time you saw someone slide feet-first into third for a triple?

Derek Jeter, he does everything perfectly.

[soupcan]

SIGN HIM, SIGN HIM, SIGN HIM, SIGN HIM!!

[Fman99]

I couldn't agree more. Letting him walk or dumping him for prospects in July are both AWFUL TERRIBLE ideas.

[Frayed Knot]

Ashie62 wrote: metsmarathon wrote: when was the last time you saw someone slide feet-first into third for a triple? Derek Jeter, he does everything perfectly.

How would we know?
Jeter now has 28 hits this season; 26 are singles and 11 of those* are infield singles.
He's only getting the ball past 2nd base about twice a week or so and so the only time he even gets to 3rd base is when trotting past it on account of being on when Granderson hits another one of his HRs (2 more last night - 10 on the season).




* A quick glance showed one was a bunt single but that's the only one where the infield part of the single appeared to be intentional. The others, both the ones I've seen and the ones I've seen described on BBRef.com, are simply well-placed weak bouncers and dribblers.

[Frayed Knot]

OK, the guy claiming Reyes is dumb looks good tonight.
He's still wrong about the whole slide thing though.

[Theoldmole]

Now!

[seawolf17]

I can't possibly agree with all of this any more.

Reyes or Wright on any other team would absolutely crush me. I want so badly for these guys to be my Mets, and my kids' Mets. I want to sound stupid trying to defend them when they're 37 years old and falling apart at the seams. I want to say something like "I'll never be a Mets fan again if they're gone," knowing full-well that's not entirely true, and I'm not a season ticket holder so it's not like the Mets care what I think, but there's no doubt in my mind that this team will lose a chunk of its fan base if you let go of either of those guys.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

The Mets have the foundation for a solid infield for years to come (Wright, Reyes, and Davis) if they will simply invest in the team's future buy retaining them for several more years. The first step in doing so is to sign Reyes now and not wait for him to hit free agency. I just have a bad feeling that the Mets are going to botch this by either trading Reyes to a contender before the deadline or letting him get to free agency and then losing him.

[soupcan]

Rockin' Doc wrote: I just have a bad feeling that the Mets are going to botch this by either trading Reyes to a contender before the deadline or letting him get to free agency and then losing him.

No doubt in my mind that one of these is going to happen and I'm sick over it.

[seawolf17]

soupcan wrote: Rockin' Doc wrote: I just have a bad feeling that the Mets are going to botch this by either trading Reyes to a contender before the deadline or letting him get to free agency and then losing him. No doubt in my mind that one of these is going to happen and I'm sick over it.

I think we all are, and that's why I'm so conflicted about the whole thing. It's in my head that the columnists are writing their "let's trade Reyes" posts just so it seems like public perception wants him traded "for the good of the team," so then they can write more columns about how awful the Mets are for trading away all their homegrown players.

You know what? EFF YOU, columnists.

[Frayed Knot]

Well of course it's not the columnists' job to root for warm fuzzy stories about Reyes & Wright growing old with the Mets. They need to consider - as does the team - whether signing one or both (Reyes now because the contract is up) truly is the right move for the team and not just the public relations one.
My only problem comes from those who act as if the outcome of the season (bad) has already been cast in stone as has the payroll levels for next year and beyond making the solution both obvious and predetermined and the only question remains how and when he'll be gone, not if.
It's not that simple even if that's what grabs the most headlines.

[stevejrogers]

Frayed Knot wrote: Well of course it's not the columnists' job to root for warm fuzzy stories about Reyes & Wright growing old with the Mets. They need to consider - as does the team - whether signing one or both (Reyes now because the contract is up) truly is the right move for the team and not just the public relations one. My only problem comes from those who act as if the outcome of the season (bad) has already been cast in stone as has the payroll levels for next year and beyond making the solution both obvious and predetermined and the only question remains how and when he'll be gone, not if. It's not that simple even if that's what grabs the most headlines.

Don't forget the fact that with the Mets financial situation, is resigning Reyes even possible this offseason?

[stevejrogers]

seawolf17 wrote: soupcan wrote: Rockin' Doc wrote: I just have a bad feeling that the Mets are going to botch this by either trading Reyes to a contender before the deadline or letting him get to free agency and then losing him. No doubt in my mind that one of these is going to happen and I'm sick over it. I think we all are, and that's why I'm so conflicted about the whole thing. It's in my head that the columnists are writing their "let's trade Reyes" posts just so it seems like public perception wants him traded "for the good of the team," so then they can write more columns about how awful the Mets are for trading away all their homegrown players. You know what? EFF YOU, columnists.

Well, if they do another Ryan trade, sure. But if they end up pulling out a Hershel Walker trade, then I'm sure what the Mets get in return will counter balance whatever career Reyes has in another uniform.

[Frayed Knot]

Don't forget the fact that with the Mets financial situation, is resigning Reyes even possible this offseason?

I don't know, but neither do the ones who are definitively saying a half a year or more in advance that it isn't.
We don't know the status of the Wilpon's financial situation, nor do we know the effect (or not) of a minority owner (expected by July last I read) and NO ONE knows what the Madoff trustee lawsuit will mean or how it will turn out.