Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted April 13 Posted April 13 The Mets hold an option on him for 2027 but this is the last guaranteed year on his contract. Obviously we’ve heard in-the-moment calls for his immediate firing. Thinking realistically, how bad would things have to be for a move to be made? I’ll set the over/under at a .500 record and <6 games back from the division on May 31. If the Mets can’t accomplish that, Mendoza can’t continue. That’s 59 games in, with 36 of them coming against the weakest* opponents the Mets will face this year. *Proprietary Gwreck formula, averaging a team’s 2025 record and 2026 FanGraphs projected record. The bottom 10 are well-represented in the Mets’ March/April/May schedule: Colorado (6 games), Washington (6), White Sox, Angels (3), Minnesota (3), Pittsburgh (3), Sacramento (3), Tampa, St. Louis (3), and Miami (6). The Hot Corner 1
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 13 Posted April 13 29 minutes ago, Gwreck said: I’ll set the over/under at a .500 record and <6 games back from the division on May 31. If the Mets can’t accomplish that, Mendoza can’t continue. That would be a good decision point but I'm not sure who his replacement would be. BTW I agree with your list of weak opponents. Later
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted April 17 Author Posted April 17 As a point of reference: the 2022 Phillies fired Joe Girardi on June 3 with a 22-29 record. They went 65-46 the rest of the way, capturing the final wild card spot.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted April 17 Posted April 17 The problem is.....who will replace Mendoza if he's fired? And please don't say Carlos Beltran.
Johnny Lunchbucket Old-Timey Member Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Willie Randolph II: Electric Boogaloo
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 17 Posted April 17 13 minutes ago, Johnny Lunchbucket said: Willie Randolph II: Electric Boogaloo Let's bring back Omar and Adam Rubin while we are at it I would think is this current losing streak goes past what , 11, 12 he's gone I would take Girardi , although this team right now just doesn't look very good, like poorly constructed bad
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 18 Posted April 18 There's Kobra Kai and Kai Correa, bench coach and a real possibility
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 19 Posted April 19 I’m at the point where I feel bad for Mendoza. I think it’s inevitable that he’s going to be fired. I think he knows it too. For me, he’ll go into that unique club where I think he’s not a good manager but I like him anyway. Terry Collins is in that club. Buddy too. whippoorwill 1
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 19 Posted April 19 Well, almost every firing is inevitable. You are hired to be fired. Few managers retire out of the job. Dying in the job is probably as just as common. But I guess Terry and Casey Stengel both go down as guys who retired out of the gig, so maybe it's a 2-to-1 ratio. It's just an exercise in how long you can keep the wolves away from the door. And in Carlos' case, the wolves are in the house. Should the "Names Here" thread be merged with this 'un?
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 20 Posted April 20 Has he received the dreaded "Vote of confidence" yet? Later
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 20 Posted April 20 I felt it was a long shot. It takes extraordinary circumstances for any club to consider firing a manager before Memorial Day. Doing so a month before requires even extraordinarier circumstances. But these are fairly extraordinary circumstances.
The Hot Corner Old-Timey Member Posted April 20 Posted April 20 I don't think a reincarnate John McGraw could make this group much better.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Lindor did a great job of painting Mendoza in a sympathetic light
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 hour ago, The Hot Corner said: I don't think a reincarnate John McGraw could make this group much better. I definitely think a philosophical shift could make a difference.
Radar Verified Member Posted April 21 Posted April 21 I really don't think the manager is the problem. Yes, as all managers do he's made mistakes but given the club he's been handed I sympathize with him. Total new coaching staff, almost total new roster, maybe over expectations on players like Benge and even Baty, too much confidence in pitching staff to rebound leaving us with three guys you really can count on for starters and first base well flip a coin at that position. I'll pound the drum again.....Boy Genuis at this point in his tenure looks much worst than our manager.
Johnny Lunchbucket Old-Timey Member Posted April 21 Posted April 21 It's not that he's makes too many Xs and Os mistakes; it that he's demonstrated he's not really capable of inspiring better performances from his guys. Why have a manager at all?
Johnny Lunchbucket Old-Timey Member Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Daily News changed their headline font--not a fan.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 21 Posted April 21 Just now, Johnny Lunchbucket said: Daily News changed their headline font--not a fan. Yeah, I noticed that too. And I agree.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted April 21 Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Radar said: I really don't think the manager is the problem. Yes, as all managers do he's made mistakes but given the club he's been handed I sympathize with him. Total new coaching staff, almost total new roster, maybe over expectations on players like Benge and even Baty, too much confidence in pitching staff to rebound leaving us with three guys you really can count on for starters and first base well flip a coin at that position. I'll pound the drum again.....Boy Genuis at this point in his tenure looks much worst than our manager. I agree with this. Stearns has handed Mendoza a limp turd to work with. You have a virtually unlimited budget, but Tommy Pham, Tyrone Taylor, and Craig Kimbrel are playing important spots? Come on. (And I shouldn't even knock Kimbrel, because except for the 10th inning Sunday, he's been okay.) Radar 1
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted Tuesday at 11:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:55 PM Important spots? Pham has 8 ABs and it took three injured OFs (Soto, Young, Tauchman) and a 1B/DH just to get him that many. Taylor played a significant semi-full-time role when the team was good in 2024 and 1st half of 2025 (approx 2.5 ABs/GP) but less so so far this season (30 PA in 22 G). And Kimbrell has thrown 3.2 innings. iow, there are so many problems with what should be the Real meat of the roster, it seems beyond silly to cite the low-hanging fruit at the back of the bench as proof of poor roster construction.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted Wednesday at 12:52 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 12:52 AM I also find the personal animosity towards Stearns very odd.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted Wednesday at 02:26 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:26 AM 14 hours ago, Benjamin Grimm said: Here's the vote of confidence... wtf. I’m glad the TCD never lived to see this.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted Wednesday at 02:27 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:27 AM At this point Mets are just being assholes holding on to Mendoza.
Radar Verified Member Posted Wednesday at 10:32 AM Posted Wednesday at 10:32 AM 9 hours ago, Gwreck said: I also find the personal animosity towards Stearns very odd. He's probably a nice fellow but for some reason he's always come across to me as a relatively young and arrogant person. Maybe that's not the case but it's the feeling I've had since he arrived here.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted Wednesday at 01:12 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:12 PM Nobody likes smart guys. They seem like know it alls and people like to root for know it alls to be wrong, even when they are actually smart people who know a lot. me I want my gm and pobo to be dumb as rocks.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted Wednesday at 01:17 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:17 PM I also wonder how Mendoza still has the job. not that he’s necessarily a bad manager or has the wrong messaging, because I think he’s exuding a message of calmness and what not. But goddamn it is not resonating with this group of overly-pressing try-hards.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago It’s time. It may not do anything but if he’s not likely to return in 2027 (and he isn’t) there’s no sense keeping him if there’s any chance a change can turn things around.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago On 4/21/2026 at 8:15 AM, Johnny Lunchbucket said: It's not that he's makes too many Xs and Os mistakes; it that he's demonstrated he's not really capable of inspiring better performances from his guys. Why have a manager at all? I mean. How can anyone legitimately argue against this.
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