What is wrong with them?

[Centerfield]

I mean really. We have a rich owner that funds the second highest payroll in baseball. He’s also brilliant and has hired one of the smartest executives in baseball. I think the manager is not any good, but he’s not 11 losses in a row bad. 
 

How is this possible?  They are the worst team in baseball. Worse than the White Sox. Worse than Colorado. I didn’t agree with the offseason moves, but there’s no excuse for them to be this bad. 
 

It’s hard to play yourselves out of contention in the three WC era. The Mets are threatening to do that before the weather gets warm. 

[Edgy MD]

Imma not seeing brilliant.

[metirish]

It's hard to fathom how they can lose 11 in row , nothing seems to be working. I'm embarrassed to have picked 90+ wins in the poll before the season started.

The players Stearns brought in just haven't worked ,it's dismal to watch

[Frayed Knot]

11 minutes ago, metirish said:

The players Stearns brought in just haven't worked 

And neither have the holdovers. Also, oddly, neither have the cast-offs from this winter (except for Nimmo) which raises the question if they'd any better off even if they opted to just keep the band together.

JMcN = 92 OPS+ (career = 116 OPS+); Pete = 94 (134); Diaz = 10.50 ERA (2.86); Zimmo = 170 (125)

[Edgy MD]

We traded two perfectly functional human beings to the White Sox for Luis Robert, and Luis brought his curse with him, turning the Mets into the White Sox.

How does everybody not see this?

[Centerfield]

You figure that within a lineup your expensive players give you a bit of a floor. Meaning they may not live up to expectations, but you figure they’ll be at least pretty good. Not on our team. 

1. Lindor (expensive). Historically a slow starter. I expect will be fine. 
2. Soto (super expensive). Hurt. Will be fine once he returns. 
3. Bichette (super expensive). Figure he’ll be fine. But inexplicably slow start.
4. Polanco (expensive). Is hurt and played even worse than Bichette when he wasn’t. There’s no guarantee he’ll be good. This was the risk of signing an injury prone player coming off his one good, healthy year. 
5. Robert (expensive). Big question mark. The reason we got him for nothing was because he’s expensive. Realistically we can’t expect any better than he’s already shown. 
6. Semien (expensive). We took on the worst contract in MLB because we feared that Nimmo might turn into a worse one. It may still, but it hasn’t yet. And the decision has saddled us now with a terrible player that is not likely to improve. 
 

Baty, Vientos, Alvarez and Benge are obviously not expensive. But we have no idea if they will end up being any good. 
 

That means out of the ten players that make up this lineup, six of them being very highly paid, only three of them can be expected to provide us with any sort of reasonable floor. That’s on Stearns. (And unfortunately in this early season, none of them have provided that floor yet). 
 

The fact that of those 10, only 2 are performing at a reasonable level suggests that the analytics, coaching, preparation or management is not doing their part. 
 

The fact that the underperformance has been happening since mid-June of 2025 suggests this is no fluke. 

[metirish]

By the time Lindor and the rest will be fine the Mets will be buried , 7.5 back already , huge home stand coming up to state the obvious 

 

Our starting pitching isn't to be trusted beyond McLean,if Mendoza does lose his job Stearns better be to there answering questions 

[ashie62]

As far as I'm concerned letting Pete Alonso go was stupid. Pete was the heart and soul of the Mets and I don't see much heart on the field now

Its hard to sign older players, plug them in, and expect the best

[Edgy MD]

I am not particular concerned about the rotation.  A rotation full of starters is rarely firing all at once.  The failures are just magnified because the offense can't keep them in games where the starters aren't awesome.

[Cowtipper]

It's still only April. 

[Lefty Specialist]

Well Senga has been a disaster, which pretty much carries over from last year.  Semien hasn't hit, which has carried over from the last two years. Peralta's a 5-inning guy. Polanco has been a zero.

Lindor always starts slow, but there's something else at work.  He's been having too many brain farts in the field and just doesn't look competitive at the plate most times.

If I hear Gary say one more time how good Bichette has historically been with runners in scoring position, I'm going to scream.  He's been terrible in those situations, including yesterday.

Benge simply hasn't been ready for prime time, but Soto's injury has shown how shallow their outfield depth is.  The Ghost of Tommy Pham isn't helping either.

Everything's misfiring now.  This was a team built on 'ifs' and none of the 'ifs' are working.

 

[metsmarathon]

I think it’s all about approach. 
 

I also think that one of the biggest problems is Lindor, in that with Lindor, he’s always far too willing to take the burden onto his own shoulders, instead of spreading and reinforcing a message of trusting your teammates and doing the job together. 
 

I mean, accountability is great, but I feel like he’s always _too_ accountable, and that gets to be infectious in a bad way. 
 

relax. Trust your brother in metly arms. Go out and have fun. 

[Cowtipper]

I think the Mets are still putting way too much hope into Vientos, Baty and Alvarez (and Mauricio). All four were supposed to do good things with them. Baty, Vientos and Alvarez are in their fifth year with the club, and Mauricio is in his third, and between them we have zero All-Star selections, zero Gold Gloves, zero anything. Baty owns a .230/.289/.365 career line, Vientos a .238/292/.435 career line, Alvarez a .232/.310/.433 career line and Mauricio a .234/.294/.359 career line. They are, on average, 25 years and 204 days old. They're not performing much this year, either. 

[smg58]

The offense is a bigger problem than the pitching right now.  Other than Alvarez, nobody is hitting.  I'm particularly disappointed in Baty and Vientos, who have been given the opportunity to grab full time jobs and have flat out refused to do so.  Stearns showed too much confidence in Benge's readiness, but that is water under the bridge at this point.  I think Polanco was playing hurt, but Bichette and Lindor really couldn't afford to slump with Soto out.  The bullpen has let them down a few times, yesterday certainly, but we wouldn't have noticed if the team was hitting.

[whippoorwill]

I have a question...remember I don't see this team play and I am pretty unfamiliar with practically the entire lineup.

Is there someone we are waiting for that is on IL or something that is going to turn things around?

I remember Rusty getting hurt or John Milner and it really made a difference when they came back but i don't know this team anymore.

[Edgy MD]

Yes, they are waiting on Juan Soto.

[whippoorwill]

That's not going to make any difference.  Well, not enough.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, if any one player is going to turn things around, Juan Soto is the type of guy who can do it.

But what we really need is for Soto to come back strong and for Lindor and Bichette to start producing and for a few other players to step up as well.

 

[Cowtipper]

I have faith the big names will perform and the Mets will get into 85-90 win territory by the time the year is done. Last year, they were overperforming around at this point, because of the pitching. This year, they are underperforming offensively. The club won't maintain a .226/.288/.336 line all season. It won't. My fantasy team is fairly loaded but 20 out of 20th. But we're still working with small sample sizes. Things will regress to the mean eventually. 

[Casey Stengel]

6 hours ago, Cowtipper said:

I think the Mets are still putting way too much hope into Vientos, Baty and Alvarez (and Mauricio). All four were supposed to do good things with them. Baty, Vientos and Alvarez are in their fifth year with the club, and Mauricio is in his third, and between them we have zero All-Star selections, zero Gold Gloves, zero anything. Baty owns a .230/.289/.365 career line, Vientos a .238/292/.435 career line, Alvarez a .232/.310/.433 career line and Mauricio a .234/.294/.359 career line. They are, on average, 25 years and 204 days old. They're not performing much this year, either. 

spot on! they are still only prospects.

[Frayed Knot]

But of those four, only Alvarez had a steady job as the season opened.

Baty, on the basis of his good second half last year, was slated as a kind of semi-regular by being an all-around IF/OF/DH floater even as it left him without a set spot to call his own.

Vientos was promised nothing beyond being a DH vs LHPs and only started to get more after Soto, Polanco, and Young all went down.

Mauricio neither started the year with the big club nor is on it now and was up only briefly in between.

So as far as reasons for 'What's wrong with them', a planned over-reliance on this quartet is way down the list of high crimes or misdemeanors. 

[seawolf17]

I think if anything, maybe Mauricio needs an extended look. I feel like the Baty/Vientos experiment has runs its course.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

9 hours ago, Cowtipper said:

It's still only April. 

It will take until June to get to .500, and then another 5-6 weeks to get 10 games over, and then another 5-6 to go 20 games up where you can hope to get a playoff spot. We're up against it

[Radar]

9 hours ago, Cowtipper said:

It's still only April. 

Okay, but tired of hearing it. You  can lose the year early as well as late. These losses are losses period!

 

 

[MFS62]

How much time will it take for them to turn it around?. I may not be able to wait much longer.

As Casey Stengel said, "Most of the people my age are dead".

Later

[Edgy MD]

We are all just prospects.  All of us.

[Batty31]

Relying on one player to fix this mess just isn't going to cut it. At this point, I don't see much to be optimistic about.  These early losses are what are going to bite us in the ass down the road, even if things do start turning around