Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 16 Posted April 16 I neither particularly advocate for nor predict the dismissal of Carlos Mendoza, but I think we're at the point in this losing streak where the morning after each loss leaves him tangibly closer to the edge than he was the morning before. They flipped over the team. They flipped over the coaching staff. If they cannot change direction, there aren't a lot of other flips available to upper management. That said, it's also hard to shake the idea that this lineup — at least the non-Juan Soto version of this lineup — may actually be this bad. I mean, they probably aren't this bad, but maybe. So last night I went to sleep not counting sheep, but counting alternative managers: Carlos Beltran — A Hall of Fame election has perhaps or perhaps not completed his professional rehabilitation, and now it's perhaps time to take the job his downfall cost him and complete his public rehabilitation. The other side of that is the open question of whether he ever should have been offered the job in the first place. JD Martinez — Because if one SAttPoBO is a candidate, then the other should be. Edgardo Alfonzo — Fan favorite former infielder forced to grind out his managerial ambitions in the indy minors despite said fan-favorite status, and he's not Wally Backman. Joe Girardi — The guy always strikes me as a nut, but probably is at the top of any list for teams seeking an experienced manager. Reid Brigniac — Managed Binghamton into one of the all-time great Mets minor-league teams in 2025, and would presumably be a familiar person to manage those players as they become big leaguers. Don Mattingly — Outside of Bud Black, I don't know anybody who does better holding a job a long time without any outward signs of success. Apparently the industry likes him. It'd be another theft right out of Philly's pocket and he's a back-page guy. And, of course, winning with him would be an embarrassment for the Yankee brand — but the trick would be winning with him. Skip Schumaker David Ross Scott Servais Buck — he'd probably do it for triple what he was being paid when he got the axe. For what it's worth, they actually haven't faced a division opponent yet. I'm not sure what to glean from that, but you can glean what you will. For what it is also worth, fixing things on a veteran team is an assignment usually handed to an experienced manager, and the Mets are a veteran team. If it is a first-time manager, it is usually going to be a highly regarded guy with All-Star juice like Beltran or Martinez — a guy the Alex Castellanoses of the world can respect, and not an out-of-left-field minor league whiz kid like Mendoza or Luis Rojas. But usuallys are just usuallys. Anyhow, put your names here, and hopefully they go on a 24-game tear that makes this thread look silly.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 A year ago I would have been saying John Gibbons. I suppose Beltran has a shot. I have no idea who would be a good choice.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 I also like Skip Schumacher as a candidate but he is currently managing the Rangers, so that might result in a tampering charge. JD Martinez seems like an obviously choice and checks a lot of boxes (including Spanish fluency).
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 From that group I wouldn't mind having Joe Girardi
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 There's only one correct answer, and you all know it. MFS62 1
Radar Verified Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Edgy MD said: I neither particularly advocate for nor predict the dismissal of Carlos Mendoza, but I think we're at the point in this losing streak where the morning after each loss leaves him tangibly closer to the edge than he was the morning before. They flipped over the team. They flipped over the coaching staff. If they cannot change direction, there aren't a lot of other flips available to upper management. That said, it's also hard to shake the idea that this lineup — at least the non-Juan Soto version of this lineup — may actually be this bad. I mean, they probably aren't this bad, but maybe. So last night I went to sleep not counting sheep, but counting alternative managers: Carlos Beltran — A Hall of Fame election has perhaps or perhaps not completed his professional rehabilitation, and now it's perhaps time to take the job his downfall cost him and complete his public rehabilitation. The other side of that is the open question of whether he ever should have been offered the job in the first place. JD Martinez — Because if one SAttPOBO is a candidate, then the other should be. Edgardo Alfonzo — Fan favorite former infielder forced to grind out his managerial ambitions in the indy minors despite said fan-favorite status, and he's not Wally Backman. Joe Girardi — The guy always strikes me as a nut, but probably is at the top of any list for teams seeking an experienced manager. Reid Brigniac — Managed Binghamton into one of the all-time great Mets minor-league teams in 2025, and would presumably be a familiar person to manage those players as they become big leaguers. Don Mattingly — Outside of Bud Black, I don't know anybody who does better holding a job a long time without any outward signs of success. Apparently the industry likes him. It'd be another theft right out of Philly's pocket and he's a back-page guy. And, of course, winning with him, would be an embarrassment for the Yankee brand, but the trick would be winning with him. Skip Schumaker David Ross Scott Servais Buck — he'd probably do it for triple what he was being paid when he got the axe. For what it's worth, they actually haven't faced a division opponent yet. I'm not sure what to glean from that, but you can glean what you will. For what it is also worth, fixing things on a veteran team is an assignment usually handed to an experienced manager, and the Mets are a veteran team. If it is a first-time manager, it is usually going to be a highly regarded guy with All-Star juice like Beltran or Martinez — a guy the Alex Castellanoses of the world can respect, and not a out-of-left-field minor league whiz kid like Mendoza or Luis Rojas. But usuallys are just usuallys. Anyhow, put your names here, and hopefully they go on a 24-game tear that makes this thread look silly. If the lineup is bad as you state then it seems to me the problem is more the GM than the manager. If you on the other hand think the lineup is good and underperforming then we can look at the manager. My inclination is to look at Stearns who in rebuilding the team was good at the tear down a d thus far looks like poorly performing the rebuild. MFS62 1
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 16 Author Posted April 16 44 minutes ago, Radar said: If the lineup is bad as you state then it seems to me the problem is more the GM than the manager. If you on the other hand think the lineup is good and underperforming then we can look at the manager. My inclination is to look at Stearns who in rebuilding the team was good at the tear down a d thus far looks like poorly performing the rebuild. I don't state it so much as confess an impression. Nothing I wrote blames the manager for the personnel. I don't know how to make clearer that I am not advocating here, except to state I am not advocating. If I was advocating, I would advocate the manager, PoBO, and owner all be dismissed and I be given the keys to the team free of charge. 1 hour ago, seawolf17 said: There's only one correct answer, and you all know it. Though I think he's, like, 100 now. Radar 1
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 16 Author Posted April 16 Hey, I left out Jose Iglesias — the only man with the proven ability to turn around a Mets season. MFS62 and Radar 2
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Stearns has been on Radar's radar for a good while Radar 1
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 51 minutes ago, Edgy MD said: Hey, I left out Jose Iglesias — the only man with the proven ability to turn around a Mets season. "Ahem. You rang?"
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 16 Author Posted April 16 11 minutes ago, seawolf17 said: "Ahem. You rang?" Hell, that's some sexy shit. I guess I meant to specify turning around the team with intangibleness, but your point is well taken. Notable that both turner-arounders were Cubano-Americanos.
Johnny Lunchbucket Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 The problem with being the Mets manager is there's really nothing to do except get out of the way and let the "talent" take over. That's how they designed this and it seems to be Mendy's game. Naming Beltran manager would be crazy given how they are alreday blowing him. Can you imagine if your boss had his name on the building and you didn't get along? And then how is the front office ever going to fire him? I think taking over this group would be best for an experienced manager, maybe Buck II.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 I’m on record saying I think Mendy is not the right guy. problem is I’m so discouraged by what I’m seeing that I don’t think it will make a difference.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Bad in-game decision-making cost the Mets a couple games this year. That’s squarely on Mendoza, but it also was only a couple games. Bad fielding/mental errors suggests a lack of preparation, which is at least partly on Mendoza. But the complete inability to hit? I have a harder time putting that squarely on Mendoza.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 I'm pretty confident that Lindor and Bichette are going to hit. And that Soto will too. I'm much less confident about Semien, Polanco, and Robert. That's too many question marks. Stearns looked very smart when he rebuilt the roster on the fly during the 2024 season. I think that's the last time he's looked particularly smart. Radar 1
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 16 Author Posted April 16 To me, part of good managing is getting use out of guys when their bats aren't particularly loud. But they seem to be in wait-'til-I-get-it-goin' mode, and that's not a happy show to watch.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 One of the intangibles of managing is figuring out how to get the most of the guys that are suiting up. In almost every MLB game, the team you field has a chance to win. Multiple long losing streaks suggest a manager that does not know how to stop the bleeding and rally his guys to get one win, take a breath, and play to their ability. For far too long, four months and counting, the Mets have played below their ability. I said in one of the game threads that it was a bad sign that the team just rolled over when they got down early. But then they fought back (I think this is the Saturday A’s game). But then the next day, when it was a close game, the bats went silent again. nothing is definitive, but this appears to me like a team that is pressing, and can only score when the pressure is lifted. Kinda like the 9th inning yesterday. A good manager, in my book, finds a way to left that pressure, even when the stakes are high.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 49 minutes ago, Benjamin Grimm said: I'm pretty confident that Lindor and Bichette are going to hit. And that Soto will too. I'm much less confident about Semien, Polanco, and Robert. That's too many question marks. Stearns looked very smart when he rebuilt the roster on the fly during the 2024 season. I think that's the last time he's looked particularly smart. There are four reliables on this team. Lindor, Soto, and Bichette you figure will be good. Semien you can assume will be bad. Everyone else is a question mark. Polanco, Baty, Alvarez, Vientos, Benge, Robert. All of them could have a .650 OPS or an .850 OPS or anywhere in between.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Fonzie- he has managing experience, speaks Spanish, no major scandals and has metly pedigree . later
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Mendoza speaks Spanish, hardly a requirement
Radar Verified Member Posted April 17 Posted April 17 16 hours ago, metirish said: Stearns has been on Radar's radar for a good while True. There's something about him😇. Guess in the time he's been here I've overall not liked his moves. I discount Soto as I believe that was all the owner. Having said that I guess there's worst and probably better GM's. metirish 1
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Super love Fonzie but if it didn’t pan out it puts a blot on his Metdom MFS62 1
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 18 Posted April 18 On 4/16/2026 at 4:16 PM, Benjamin Grimm said: I'm pretty confident that Lindor and Bichette are going to hit. And that Soto will too. I'm much less confident about Semien, Polanco, and Robert. That's too many question marks. Stearns looked very smart when he rebuilt the roster on the fly during the 2024 season. I think that's the last time he's looked particularly smart. He signed older players. Robert is 28 but his body looks 38 in my eyes. The one the really stumped me is Marcus Semien. I believe him to been in decline before 2026 Polanco to play 1B, that may not age well
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted April 18 Author Posted April 18 Well, I'm starting the BRING BACK HOWE campaign.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago Ummm, ... Chip Hale! Eric Wedge! Manny Acta!! JOHN FARRELL!!!
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Maybe JD Martinez? this change has to happen immediately.
Marshmallowmilkshake Old-Timey Member Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Buster Olney speculating Kai Correa, who is viewed as a future manager for sure, or Beltran. He said the biggest problem is inserting a rookie manager into this mess. I get that, but I also don't know about bringing in someone who already has been fired once or twice. Beltran supposedly commands great respect. And, given the Houston thing, we know he can be kinda devious and think outside the box. I do recognize that technically Beltran has already been fired once.
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