Beltran Watch

[nymr83]

Building a rationale... https://twitter.com/nypost_mets/status/1217545480923688961?s=21https://twitter.com/nypost_mets/status/1217545480923688961?s=21 Integrity is a buzzword with the Mets. Just not something the Wilpons actively practice.

Jeff: "we need integrity around here, and its not going to come from me so ..."

[Edgy MD]

Conscious uncoupling.

[dgwphotography]

Building a rationale... https://twitter.com/nypost_mets/status/1217545480923688961?s=21https://twitter.com/nypost_mets/status/1217545480923688961?s=21 Integrity is a buzzword with the Mets. Just not something the Wilpons actively practice. INTEGRITY (In 'teh gri tee) Dithering just long enough over a difficult decision that it's taken out of your hands, or gives you semi-plausible cover; leaking gossip anonymously when you defame, so as to not be directly responsible in any attributable way "I know some of you have been counseling rash, decisive action, but hey, let's show some integrity here, and he just might resign our way out of this." -Excepted from Wilpon's Dictionary, Fifth Ed.

BOC


=Inigo Montoya]"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

[ashie62]

Amazin all around

[Ceetar]

fuck the media 100 ways to sunday, seriously. Can we get some real reporters to cover baseball that aren't out to get a guy fired for not being truthful to them about a situation that was currently under investigation by MLB?



I didn't think I could lose any more respect for Joel Sherman. he sure showed me. asshole.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Ceetar post_id=29921 time=1579210660 user_id=102]
fuck the media 100 ways to sunday, seriously. Can we get some real reporters to cover baseball that aren't out to get a guy fired for not being truthful to them about a situation that was currently under investigation by MLB?



I didn't think I could lose any more respect for Joel Sherman. he sure showed me. asshole.

[Ceetar]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=29923 time=1579213028 user_id=68]
=Ceetar post_id=29921 time=1579210660 user_id=102]
fuck the media 100 ways to sunday, seriously. Can we get some real reporters to cover baseball that aren't out to get a guy fired for not being truthful to them about a situation that was currently under investigation by MLB?



I didn't think I could lose any more respect for Joel Sherman. he sure showed me. asshole.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Ceetar post_id=29924 time=1579214112 user_id=102]
=batmagadanleadoff post_id=29923 time=1579213028 user_id=68]
=Ceetar post_id=29921 time=1579210660 user_id=102]
fuck the media 100 ways to sunday, seriously. Can we get some real reporters to cover baseball that aren't out to get a guy fired for not being truthful to them about a situation that was currently under investigation by MLB?



I didn't think I could lose any more respect for Joel Sherman. he sure showed me. asshole.

[nymr83]

Manfred did the most he could under the rules to punish the Astros as a team imo. not his fault the fines are limited, those are still his bosses at the end of the day and while many of them will grumble that Crane wasn't punished enough they wont vote to increase the max penalty because one day THEIR coaches and players will cheat.

[Ceetar]

I didn't read the Joel Sherman article, but even so, I'll guarantee that Joel Sherman didn't get anybody fired. There are some reports that Beltran was one of the masterminds of the cheating scheme. If that's true, Beltran should get a lifetime ban from baseball. Lifetime. Cheating on, I dunno, dozens of games. And an entire post-season run. And to you, that's nothing.

I don't know if he wrote an article, probably, clickbait and all that. If him and his ilk didn't get on their high horse about Beltran not mentioning the investigation when he was hired and a constant barrage for the past few days about how he has to answer for this thing that the investigation decided not to charge him for. But not, they whined and complained and wondered what Beltran knew and why wouldn't he speak about it and OMG HE SAID HE KNEW NOTHING.



so yeah, Joel and the other assholes did in fact get him fired. Jeff all but admitted when he said "when they saw the extent to which he was mentioned in the report" which, as we know, was once. the same amount as the New York Yankees.



Also 'cheating'. For one, EVERYONE is doing it. for another, knowing the signs is not a crime. Yes, it's breaking a rule to do it electronically, for some reason, and even though everyone knew they were doing it no one bothered to obscure their signs? So fuck if I care, they tried to gain an edge by acquiring knowledge that's not against the rules to know. I literally do not care about that, nor do I care about steroids for that matter. As far as I can see, the playing field was still level and the games were still fair. So fuck all to the rest of it.



But most of all to Sherman who tweeted he absolutely didn't suggest someone should get fired while constantly tweeting about whether or not he should be fired.

[Mex17]

Even for an organization that has come to be known for inexplicable, mind numbing, incompetency, this one takes the cake.



They could have hired literally anyone else, all of whom had actual managerial experience on some level or another. Instead, they went with the entitled superstar with no managing or official coaching experience anywhere because he just felt like trying it out (but only on the Major League level and only in the city that he likes to spend time in because, hey, he's Carlos Beltran). And now look how it blew up in their faces. They get caught up in one of the Top Three scandals ever to engulf the game of baseball (Black Sox and steroids being the other two), and they did not even participate or benefit from it.

[Edgy MD]

Nobody has experience until they do. And experienced guys have plenty of skeletons in their closets, too.



As for "the Top Three scandals ever to engulf the game of baseball," I'll happily disagree with that.

They could have hired literally anyone else, all of whom had actual managerial experience on some level or another.

Please review this sentence.

[LWFS]

I mean, they could have hired me. I don't have any managerial experience.



[smirks nerdily]

[Pushes glasses up bridge of nose]

[Ceetar]

Beltran was a good choice and still is. This probably isn't even top three sign stealing scandals

[dgwphotography]

=LWFS post_id=29943 time=1579222819 user_id=84]
I mean, they could have hired me. I don't have any managerial experience.



[smirks nerdily]

[Pushes glasses up bridge of nose]

[nymr83]

=Ceetar post_id=29944 time=1579223297 user_id=102]
Beltran was a good choice and still is. This probably isn't even top three sign stealing scandals

[LWFS]

=Ceetar post_id=29944 time=1579223297 user_id=102]
Beltran was a good choice and still is. This probably isn't even top three sign stealing scandals

[Ceetar]

=nymr83 post_id=29954 time=1579230238 user_id=54]
=Ceetar post_id=29944 time=1579223297 user_id=102]
Beltran was a good choice and still is. This probably isn't even top three sign stealing scandals

[Edgy MD]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Jessica Mondoza checks in with an idiotic take on how wrong it was for Mike Fiers to spill the beans. Whack her while we're at it.

Mendozy's got a hell of a conflict of interest here, doesn't she? She's serving both as a decision-maker within baseball and a commentator on MLB decisions.

[seawolf17]

Not for nothing, but remember how we acquired Jake Marisnick despite the fact that he can't hit major league pitching? He and Beltran *were* teammates on that Astros team.



I don't know what that means, but I wonder how involved Marisnick was and whether that made him such an offseason priority.

[Ceetar]

Not for nothing, but remember how we acquired Jake Marisnick despite the fact that he can't hit major league pitching? He and Beltran *were* teammates on that Astros team. I don't know what that means, but I wonder how involved Marisnick was and whether that made him such an offseason priority.

That'd be a very Mets way to go about sign stealing "Hey, lot's not develop our own system for this very simple thing, let's just grab some retread(s)? Were Carlos and J.D. like, this "computer" stuff. so weird man.



Actually that's maybe not true. These guys were actually decoding the signs, not just reading them. Maybe Marisnick was good with pattern recognition or whatever so why not have a 25th guy on teh roster that's gonna be able to hop back tothe video room plenty and is good at decoding the pitcher's apparently garbage deceptions.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Edgy MD wrote: Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Jessica Mondoza checks in with an idiotic take on how wrong it was for Mike Fiers to spill the beans. Whack her while we're at it. Mendozy's got a hell of a conflict of interest here, doesn't she? She's serving both as a decision-maker within baseball and a commentator on MLB decisions.

and acts as though she's bound by neither. She's shitting on the game and on the media but is employed by both

[Benjamin Grimm]

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[seawolf17]

Not for nothing, but remember how we acquired Jake Marisnick despite the fact that he can't hit major league pitching? He and Beltran *were* teammates on that Astros team. I don't know what that means, but I wonder how involved Marisnick was and whether that made him such an offseason priority. That'd be a very Mets way to go about sign stealing "Hey, lot's not develop our own system for this very simple thing, let's just grab some retread(s)? Were Carlos and J.D. like, this "computer" stuff. so weird man. Actually that's maybe not true. These guys were actually decoding the signs, not just reading them. Maybe Marisnick was good with pattern recognition or whatever so why not have a 25th guy on teh roster that's gonna be able to hop back tothe video room plenty and is good at decoding the pitcher's apparently garbage deceptions.

Right? That's kinda what I'm saying. I fully admit that it's a stretch, and if I was a journalist I wouldn't publish it, but it seems like there are dots there that may or may not connect.

[dgwphotography]

This is absolute gold:



https://twitter.com/jquadddddd/status/1218021838443438081?s=21https://twitter.com/jquadddddd/status/1218021838443438081?s=21

[Centerfield]

Applause.

[LWFS]

A damn delight.

[Willets Point]

I lost it at Syndergaard.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

clever and charming

[nymr83]

Video today of the Astros shelling Stroman, garbage can banging clearly audible. Stroman pissed. This is why Beltran could not stay, how would you like the guy who cheated you to be your new boss?