Beltran Watch

[Ceetar]

=nymr83 post_id=30188 time=1579566844 user_id=54]
Video today of the Astros shelling Stroman, garbage can banging clearly audible. Stroman pissed. This is why Beltran could not stay, how would you like the guy who cheated you to be your new boss?

[LWFS]

Whether you agree or not about its seriousness, the Astros' actions-- players included-- seem to have crossed a pretty serious line in the sand for a lot of MLBers, judging from the https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-cheating-scandal-players-react-to-the-many-layers-of-the-sign-stealing-fallout/vast majority of the dozens who've responded publicly (and that's just the Twitter-active ones). It's not hard to imagine that being a source of friction between an active participant in the cheating (regardless of how active you believe that to be, or how much it matters) and a player he's trying to motivate and direct, especially if said active participant is a little light in the experience-cum-authority department anyway.

[Ceetar]

yeah and the vast majority of MLB players are idiots too. Didn't a lot of pitchers get all whiny about steroids too even though they were just as roided up, if not more? Hell, plenty of pitchers get all up in arms about the shift too, even though they're dead wrong about it hurting them.



Plenty of players have come out and been all like "hey, like, those other guys do this too"

[Edgy MD]

Plenty of players have come out and been all like "hey, like, those other guys do this too"

As far as I know, none since Billy Bean in 1999.

[nymr83]

=Ceetar post_id=30189 time=1579567069 user_id=102]
=nymr83 post_id=30188 time=1579566844 user_id=54]
Video today of the Astros shelling Stroman, garbage can banging clearly audible. Stroman pissed. This is why Beltran could not stay, how would you like the guy who cheated you to be your new boss?

[Ceetar]

=nymr83 post_id=30209 time=1579577486 user_id=54]
and the legality is irrelevant? Where can I send your Trump2020 bumper sticker?

[LWFS]

=Ceetar post_id=30206 time=1579576150 user_id=102]
yeah and the vast majority of MLB players are idiots too. Didn't a lot of pitchers get all whiny about steroids too even though they were just as roided up, if not more? Hell, plenty of pitchers get all up in arms about the shift too, even though they're dead wrong about it hurting them.

[Ceetar]

=LWFS post_id=30219 time=1579620938 user_id=84]
=Ceetar post_id=30206 time=1579576150 user_id=102]
yeah and the vast majority of MLB players are idiots too. Didn't a lot of pitchers get all whiny about steroids too even though they were just as roided up, if not more? Hell, plenty of pitchers get all up in arms about the shift too, even though they're dead wrong about it hurting them.

[Guest 41Forever]

=Ceetar post_id=30221 time=1579622108 user_id=102]
=LWFS post_id=30219 time=1579620938 user_id=84]
=Ceetar post_id=30206 time=1579576150 user_id=102]
yeah and the vast majority of MLB players are idiots too. Didn't a lot of pitchers get all whiny about steroids too even though they were just as roided up, if not more? Hell, plenty of pitchers get all up in arms about the shift too, even though they're dead wrong about it hurting them.

[Ceetar]

I said would've been. Funny how working together towards a common goal makes you care less about nebulous things from years ago.

[Centerfield]

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=Ceetar post_id=30189 time=1579567069 user_id=102]
=nymr83 post_id=30188 time=1579566844 user_id=54]
Video today of the Astros shelling Stroman, garbage can banging clearly audible. Stroman pissed. This is why Beltran could not stay, how would you like the guy who cheated you to be your new boss?

[stevejrogers]

And The Mole, not to be confused with The Old Mole, is now leaving YES for an unspecified role in the Met front office!



My guess? Stevie wants to ensure a Met NY on Beltran's eventual HOF plaque.



https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/02/mets-to-hire-carlos-belt%20ran-for-front-office-role.htmlhttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/02/mets-to-hire-carlos-belt ran-for-front-office-role.html

[stevejrogers]

While for good reasons, that mid-00s run has been looked upon negatively in the nearly 20 years since Omar and Willie were hired. Kind of intriguing to see the creeping back of that era's legacy with a few players at OTD, and Beltran back in the fold.

[metirish]

Link above isn't working so I'm linking this



https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2023/02/05/carlos-beltran-leaving-yes-network-for-mets-front-office-job/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16756390238588&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2023%2F02%2F05%2Fcarlos-beltran-leaving-yes-network-for-mets-front-office-job%2Fhttps://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2023/02/05/carlos-beltran-leaving-yes-network-for-mets-front-office-job/amp/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16756390238588&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2023%2F02%2F05%2Fcarlos-beltran-leaving-yes-network-for-mets-front-office-job%2F



Anyway, good to have him back

[G-Fafif]

Martino with a detailed dive into how and why Beltran has returned.



https://www.sny.tv/articles/francisco-lindor-steve-alex-cohen-yankees-carlos-beltran-metshttps://www.sny.tv/articles/francisco-lindor-steve-alex-cohen-yankees-carlos-beltran-mets

[nymr83]

Martino with a detailed dive into how and why Beltran has returned. https://www.sny.tv/articles/francisco-lindor-steve-alex-cohen-yankees-carlos-beltran-metshttps://www.sny.tv/articles/francisco-lindor-steve-alex-cohen-yankees-carlos-beltran-mets

Because the Yankees suck? and somehow a fanbase that listens to Stearling and Waldman thinks they have any authority to label another broadcaster as not good?

[Frayed Knot]

Beltran and the YES TV booth was not a good fit.

Probably not all his fault: his English isn't great; the YES booth is often over-crowded leaving each guy scant time to sound insightful; he, along with co-newbie Cameron Maybin, came off as diversity hires when they were thrown into the deep end of the pool with scant MFY connections and seemingly little or no prep work.



But if that stands as a first step for Carlos in his rehab towards a job in a front office then maybe it wasn't lost time after all.

Maybin hooked on with the Tiger booth this winter (his first club) so somebody must see something in him too.

[nymr83]

Yeah, from Beltran's perspective after losing the Mets manager job he had to be thinking that any job with a team was a good job for a year just to remove the taint of hiring him