Carlos Beltran, 22nd Manager of the New York Mets

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

There's almost a Trumpian strain of erasing the Alderson Era among the Wilpons isn't there?

[G-Fafif]

The New Mets, indeed.

[Centerfield]

El esta aqui!!!!

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I don't like it, Gar.

[HahnSolo]

Official? I only see that guys on twitter are saying Sid Rosenberg broke the story. And well, he's not the most reliable source.

[G-Fafif]

DiComo and Rosenthal have confirmed. That's official enough for a Friday afternoon.

[G-Fafif]

Beltran is already the best manager the Mets have had since Terry Collins.

[Edgy MD]

If he works hard to get in shape, they can activate him in September.

[Centerfield]

To be honest, I can't imagine a scenario where this ends well. He won't get the talent he needs to win, and the Wilpons will throw him under the bus at the end of it all. But for today, I am thrilled that Carlos Beltran will once again be a Met. Welcome back Carlos. The Mets are that much classier today just with his presence.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

All managers are a disaster in waiting but this one looks especially precarious. Is this a stealth rehiring of Terry, only without the things that made Terry attractive (OK game management, good relationship with the writers)?



How committed will Beltran really be with all the $$ he's got? When things get tough, and they will, is this a guy who's going to hangin there?



What if Terry and Beltran don't get along?



This smells like a stinky-ass compromise from miles away

[Gwreck]

Centerfield is wise.

[Willets Point]

A younger retired ballplayer from Puerto Rico taking on his first managing job? It worked for the Red Sox!



Welcome back to the Mets, Carlos Beltran!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Vanis takee!

[Frayed Knot]

=HahnSolo post_id=25727 time=1572635882 user_id=63]
Official? I only see that guys on twitter are saying Sid Rosenberg broke the story. And well, he's not the most reliable source.

[seawolf17]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Vanis takee!

Exactly what I came here to post!

[Guest 41Forever]

I'm surprised, but OK. I'm assuming they will get him a solid bench coach. I do think they'll give him players to win, and the Mets have a solid foundation in place. Excited for the upcoming season!

[Lefty Specialist]

Not sure about this. I feel like it'll either go well or flame out spectacularly- nothing in between.



I like that he asked for Terry to be a bench coach; he'll need an old baseball guy to lean on and Collins has familiarity with all the players.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Well if the ship won't sail without Terry, why did they fire him in the first place? It's not like Callaway was better. And so then why don't they just re-hire Terry? The players love him. So there's at least that. I could live with Terry. It's not like the Mets hadn't hired a dynamic manager in more than 20 years. Oh wait ... they haven't.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=25752 time=1572639745 user_id=68]
Well if the ship won't sail without Terry, why did they fire him in the first place? It's not like Callaway was better. And so then why don't they just re-hire Terry? The players love him. So there's at least that. I could live with Terry. It's not like the Mets hadn't hired a dynamic manager in more than 20 years. Oh wait ... they haven't.

[whippoorwill]

Yay!

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Well if the ship won't sail without Terry, why did they fire him in the first place?

Alderson fired Terry; the Mets fired Alderson. And the club has been erasing his legacy at every turn ever since.



First they hamstrung him by hiring all "new" senior advisors to tell Fred what he wanted to hear (Omar); then they starved him for resources; then they found an excuse to let him go (cancer, plus the rotten performance of the only guys he could afford to sign like Bruce and Walker) then they give away practically every decent prospect he acquired for a releif pitcher and a guy they think is going to sell more tickets.

[Vic Sage]

Has Beltran ever managed so much as a little league team? has he ever coached? i didn't think so.

i'm sure this will turn out well. after all, what could go wrong?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Well if the ship won't sail without Terry, why did they fire him in the first place? Alderson fired Terry; the Mets fired Alderson. And the club has been erasing his legacy at every turn ever since. First they hamstrung him by hiring all "new" senior advisors to tell Fred what he wanted to hear (Omar); then they starved him for resources; then they found an excuse to let him go (cancer, plus the rotten performance of the only guys he could afford to sign like Bruce and Walker) then they give away practically every decent prospect he acquired for a releif pitcher and a guy they think is going to sell more tickets.

So if Terry is Sandy's guy and everything Sandy must be purged, so then why is Terry even back?

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

No, Terry is Fred's guy. Fred loves "white haired baseball men"

[batmagadanleadoff]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: No, Terry is Fred's guy. Fred loves "white haired baseball men"

That's right. So this is more of the Wilpons being the Wilpons.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: No, Terry is Fred's guy. Fred loves "white haired baseball men" That's right. So this is more of the Wilpons being the Wilpons.

This team wouldn't hire Earl Weaver even if Weaver was willing to work for free. (And please, no "but he's dead" jokes.)

[batmagadanleadoff]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: No, Terry is Fred's guy. Fred loves "white haired baseball men" That's right. So this is more of the Wilpons being the Wilpons. This team wouldn't hire Earl Weaver even if Weaver was willing to work for free. (And please, no "but he's dead" jokes.)

So let me sum up my feelings on this managerial hire - it might turn out to be the greatest managerial hire in Mets history even though that's a pretty nebulous thing to say because you could say that about any new manager. But based upon what I know, (and maybe I don't know much) it's a fucking disaster in the making. Of course, with the Wilpons running things, you could say that any managerial hire is doomed to be a fucking disaster. This is so much like the BVW hire. I guess we're really into the Jeff Wilpon era, with eff daddy taking an ever-diminishing role due to age.

[Edgy MD]

Terry is the closest thing to a holdover from Beltran's last season with the Mets. If Ruben Tejada stuck last season, he would have brought a taste of 2011, but nope. Where's Brad Emaus?

[dinosaur jesus]

One of the many reasons this is an interesting and surprising choice: there are very few successful managers who were star outfielders. The only one in the top fifty in wins is Dusty Baker, at 19th; Frank Robinson is 56th. It's pretty rare, in fact, for stars at any position to make it as managers. I'm curious why the Mets think Beltran can be an exception.

[G-Fafif]

Edgy MD wrote: Where's Brad Emaus?

I was just having lunch with him and Captain Tuttle.