Harvey Suspended!

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: Not to denigrate the fine reporting history and taut journalism that 'Page Six' has long represented, but forgive me if I question the validity of phrases like: Lima “really messed with Matt Harvey’s head,” baseball sources said. Baseball sources ... Really?!?

The story makes sense to me, not that I would know one way or the other whether or not its true. But it certainly passes the plausible test. And "baseball sources" because the source or sources don't want it to be known that they're "ratting" on Harvey. If it's true, it means Harvey went out drinking on Friday night at the same exact club where earlier, Lima was photographed with Edelman. The old "What a coincidence, I just happened to be in your neighborhood" High School move Harvey played.


Heartbroken Harvey. Did Ralph Kiner break down when Elizabeth Taylor dumped him?

[Frayed Knot]

The story may very well be true but "baseball sources" could be anything from a teammate or front office guy, to someone in a different organization or just some fan who claims to know something.
Hell, Paul LoDuca has been all over everywhere since this story broke, claiming to have the inside word on this and the facts on that, and I had no idea he was in any way actually still connected to a sport
that didn't involve betting on horses and chasing underage girls, and yet he could be the "baseball source" on this one.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: The story may very well be true but "baseball sources" could be anything from a teammate or front office guy, to someone in a different organization or just some fan who claims to know something. Hell, Paul LoDuca has been all over everywhere since this story broke, claiming to have the inside word on this and the facts on that, and I had no idea he was in any way actually still connected to a sport that didn't involve betting on horses and chasing underage girls, and yet he could be the "baseball source" on this one.

But why would the phrase "baseball sources" hurt the credibility of the story (as opposed to some other wording for an anonymous source or sources)? I read it that the source or sources are connected to the baseball industry, as opposed to regular civilians who might be close to Harvey but not connected to baseball, hence "baseball sources". I mean, if Sandy Alderson, for example, was the leaker, the writers couldn't describe him as an anonymous GM in MLB, could they?

I look at the big picture and see a new story that's plausible and consistent with everything else that was disclosed about this incident.

[Frayed Knot]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: But why would the phrase "baseball sources" hurt the credibility of the story

Because it's so vague that it could mean practically anything, and because the phrase alone offers nothing as far as being up on the inside dirt of Matt Harvey's personal life.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: But why would the phrase "baseball sources" hurt the credibility of the story Because it's so vague that it could mean practically anything, and because the phrase alone offers nothing as far as being up on the inside dirt of Matt Harvey's personal life.

Maybe I'm not following. Is there another way to label the anonymous source(s) that would, in your view, enhance the credibility of the story? Or is your beef the fact that the sources are anonymous and no re-lableing would fix that beef?

[nymr83]

I get why you need anonymous sources when you are reporting on a chemical spill - maybe we ought to re-evaluate their use in gossip pieces however.

[Guest 41Forever]

Take anything from anonymous ounces with a grain of salt.

Matt Harvey Is hung up on a Brazilian supermodel?

[Guest cooby]

It's kinda like "The Untold Story" on the front of the National Enquirer, etc. If it's untold, how do you know to write it?

And speaking of Paul LoDuca, I didn't know he was still around either, let alone a baseball source. And he's the one that said the Post story about the Cinco de Mayo party was wrong, so I wouldn't put too much faith in him.

[Edgy MD]

Lo Duca was seemingly denying stories that hadn't even broken yet.

The funny thing is the idea that "baseball sources" would be who you'd go to in order to get the skinny on Harvey's broken heart. If she explicitly dumped him because he's 2013's news and it's 2017 and he's pitching like a cut-rate Wily Peralta, I can see why that would burn his butt.

[Fman99]

Harvey sounds like quite the stooge here. Put your shit together, man.

[Frayed Knot]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Maybe I'm not following. Is there another way to label the anonymous source(s) that would, in your view, enhance the credibility of the story? Or is your beef the fact that the sources are anonymous and no re-lableing would fix that beef?

I don't object to the concept of using anonymous sources but, between the vagueness of phrase "baseball sources" (players?, front office?, fans?, clubhouse boy?, Keith Law?, the ghost of Ty Cobb?) and the
leap that just because whatever person they got this 'info' from is in some form connected to baseball that it gives him knowledge of Matt Harvey's personal life, this conveys the notion that this is Page Six
getting out of a story what they set out to get in the first place which is of course that the big gossip story du jour has a connection to some hot babe.
It reminds me a bit of a scene from BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES where the writer -- fictional, but not coincidentally from the NY Post -- sets out to pump up his story of a teenager getting hit by a high-end
car by getting a teacher at the kid's school to first define 'Honor Student' as anyone who showed up regularly and didn't piss on him, and then to get a quote about how the kid never actually pissed on him,
as enough license to trumpet 'HONOR STUDENT' in the paper's headline.

As I said earlier, this story may well be true but it, like the BotV scene, has a ring to it about going as far as you need in order to find enough 'evidence' that will allow you to write what you set out to
write before you started and, call me crazy, but I don't put that past the standards of journalism at the Post's Page Six crew.
The Daily News, btw, runs a similar story today and they at least went as far to call it a "Mets source" which certainly narrows things down a bit.

[seawolf17]

Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event

HOW DARE SHE

[metirish]

seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE

Harvey has 183K followers, Lima 10.7m , how do they figure this stuff?....who's job is it to scroll through Harvey's followers?.....

[Edgy MD]

Baseball sources.

[TransMonk]

Paul LoDuca.

[Guest cooby]

metirish wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE Harvey has 183K followers, Lima 10.7m , how do they figure this stuff?....who's job is it to scroll through Harvey's followers?.....

I never heard of her

[Benjamin Grimm]

I never heard of her

This is Adriana Lima:

That's what I think too but who knows what Harvey thinks My guess:

[seawolf17]

TransMonk wrote: Paul LoDuca.

BOC

[stevejrogers]

metirish wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE Harvey has 183K followers, Lima 10.7m , how do they figure this stuff?....who's job is it to scroll through Harvey's followers?.....

There is a search function on follower/following lists in Instagram.

[Edgy MD]

So it's Steve's job!

[Guest cooby]

seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE

He didn't seem to care when I unfriended him. Hmmph

[A Boy Named Seo]

cooby wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE He didn't seem to care when I unfriended him. Hmmph

When you dumped him was like 3 benders before this one.

[MFS62]

That's what Harvey gets for using Instagram instead of facebook.
Later

[ashie62]

Facebook owns instagram. It's everywhere. Ack!

[Centerfield]

Wait, so the Brazilian model who serially dates professional athletes move on (or back) to another athlete? Shocking. I don't think any of us could have seen this coming.

What the hell Matt. Don't be the douchebag in the crew that actually falls for the stripper. My god.

[G-Fafif]

Centerfield wrote: What the hell Matt. Don't be the douchebag in the crew that actually falls for the stripper. My god.

He's a Harvey with a heart of gold.

Entourage 2.0, coming this summer.

[Benjamin Grimm]

[metirish]

It's not Page Six but what is?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2708967-matt-harveys-fa-value-has-cratered-to-10m-but-hes-going-to-be-elite-again

[Guest cooby]

My life has changed in four years too. This guy makes it seem like yesterday.

I hope he does well tomorrow. It's like waiting for your kid's next report card after he/she got a 'D' in spanish

[stevejrogers]

G-Fafif wrote: Centerfield wrote: What the hell Matt. Don't be the douchebag in the crew that actually falls for the stripper. My god. He's a Harvey with a heart of gold. Entourage 2.0, coming this summer.

You know, I never pictured Scott Boras as an Ari Gold type of dochebag asshole.