Charlie Samuels Suspended

[dgwphotography]

it could be even worse...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/11/04/2010-11-04_mets_clubhouse_manager_charlie_samuels_linked_to_nypd_gambling_investigation_sus.html

[duan]

metirish wrote: were you talking to someone about Neil Prendeville Is he blaming the drink yet? http://www.radio-info.com/news/an-irish-dj-exposes-himself-on-an-airplane-later-cries-on-the-air

and three neurofen plus!

best bit is trying to 'cover' himself with Cara Magazine!

[Guest Edgy DC]

dgwphotography wrote: it could be even worse... http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/11/04/2010-11-04_mets_clubhouse_manager_charlie_samuels_linked_to_nypd_gambling_investigation_sus.html

Very unhappy to have apparently guessed right in this quiz.

[soupcan]

Yowzers!


From the article Edgy linked:

Samuels, who has not been arrested, is believed to have told Major League Baseball that he bet on baseball games, a strict violation of baseball rules. Samuels, the Mets' clubhouse manager for 27 seasons, was described by a source as a "spider who sat in the middle of a money web," a man who earned about $80,000 a year from the Mets but whose tax returns showed about $600,000 to $700,000 in income. He has homes in Huntington, L.I., and Port St. Lucie.

[G-Fafif]

Irresponsible speculation: Samuels put itching powder in Gl@v!ne's uniform and then bet the Marlins heavy.

[Frayed Knot]

soupcan wrote: Yowzers! From the article Edgy linked: Samuels, who has not been arrested, is believed to have told Major League Baseball that he bet on baseball games, a strict violation of baseball rules. Samuels, the Mets' clubhouse manager for 27 seasons, was described by a source as a "spider who sat in the middle of a money web," a man who earned about $80,000 a year from the Mets but whose tax returns showed about $600,000 to $700,000 in income. He has homes in Huntington, L.I., and Port St. Lucie.

Ballplayers are sure good tippers.

[G-Fafif]

Hard to think of Samuels as an itsy bitsy spider at any rate.

[MFS62]

There is a sign right inside every major league baseball clubhouse door that clearly spells out the prohibition against gambling.

As Clubhouse Manager , he must have walked past that sign thousands of times.
Maybe he was the person who hung the sign in the first place.
How [crossout:2xertob6]ironic[/crossout:2xertob6] stupid would that be?

Later

[metirish]

fucks sake man

The Mets suspended the 53-year-old Samuels last week after an internal probe that began in midseason revealed that he may have written checks on Mets accounts and cashed them out to cover his own bills and later repaid the "loans" in two to three weeks, the sources said. It is unclear how much of the "loans" were never paid back. Samuels is also under scrutiny for possibly skimming money on the hotel rooms he ordered for players as the team's traveling secretary and for Mets property that went missing from the clubhouse, including hundreds of bats, balls and jerseys. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/11/04/2010-11-04_mets_clubhouse_manager_charlie_samuels_linked_to_nypd_gambling_investigation_sus.html#ixzz14PmIN5f7

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Boy that's a lotta shit since the Racing Final I picked up this morning.

Charlie has always been a figure of respect and unpenetrable mystery, reports mbtn.net. http://mbtn.net/you-never-can-tell

[Guest themetfairy]

I'm just shaking my head. It's such a betrayal.

[HahnSolo]

the team's traveling secretary and for Mets property that went missing from the clubhouse, including hundreds of bats, balls and jerseys. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/11/04/2010-11-04_mets_clubhouse_manager_charlie_samuels_linked_to_nypd_gambling_investigation_sus.html#ixzz14PmIN5f7

Shortly thereafter, this man's resume turned up in Sandy Alderson's in box.

[Ceetar]

From a Mets standpoint..who's watching the books? What other skimming is going on, went on, that they just don't notice? Do they just see "we spent $$$ in the clubhouse this month." and go with it? Not notice the traffic? not think that's high? I mean, $500,000 extra barely pays for Ike Davis, but it's still a nice chunk of change that shouldn't be able to just slip through cracks right? Or is he just taking those extra cents that are truncated off transactions and putting it into a bank account?

You wonder how long he's been doing it too. Maybe stole $1000 or two back in Keith's days, realized no one was noticing, and gradually got greedier and greedier?

[Guest themetfairy]

the team's traveling secretary and for Mets property that went missing from the clubhouse, including hundreds of bats, balls and jerseys. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/11/04/2010-11-04_mets_clubhouse_manager_charlie_samuels_linked_to_nypd_gambling_investigation_sus.html#ixzz14PmIN5f7 Shortly thereafter, this man's resume turned up in Sandy Alderson's in box.

LOL Han

[metsmarathon]

i wonder how many mets fans are hoping to learn that oliver perez is somehow involved?

[Guest Edgy DC]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Boy that's a lotta shit since the Racing Final I picked up this morning. Charlie has always been a figure of respect and unpenetrable mystery, reports mbtn.net. http://mbtn.net/you-never-can-tell

Crazy thought, but reading the justoposition of your two stories, I got the idea that the sordid mysteries of Backman and Samuels may be connected. Maybe the Mets asked Backman, before we continue supporting your career, is there anything we need to know about, and he said something along the lines of, "There's an illegal gambling ring that's been operating under your noses for 25 years, centered around your equipment guy, and if you don't want me in your clubhouse, you sure don't want that guy."

Way back in the ugly eighties, Backman's old dude Dykstra was under serious investigation by MLB for incurring heavy gambling losses that didn't exactly occur at Vegas tables. When I heard John Dowd speak, he said the Pete Rose banishment had an effect throughout baseball, that Dykstra had been stonewalling the invetstigation, but after the banishment went down, he sat down and told Dowd everything.

But, you know, maybe he didn't tell Dowd everything.

You gotta think that a guy as smart and chummy and scummy as Keith would have a clue. More than a few players must've.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Interesting thought. Of course, if such a thing happened, we should clarify that this would have been when Wally got the Brooklyn job, not more recently as part of whatever consideration he may be getting for the Flushing position.

[Willets Point]

metsmarathon wrote: i wonder how many mets fans are hoping to learn that oliver perez is somehow involved?

Or K-Rod.

[seawolf17]

Willets Point wrote: metsmarathon wrote: i wonder how many mets fans are hoping to learn that oliver perez is somehow involved? Or K-Rod.

Yes and no on Frankie. At least I think he can be a productive member of the 2011 roster.

[Centerfield]

My first thoughts upon seeing this thread:

Charlie Daniels was suspended? From what? What does that have to do with...

Oh, oh. Charlie Samuels. Of course.

The Phillies manager.

Nice.

[Ceetar]

My first thoughts upon seeing this thread: Charlie Daniels was suspended? From what? What does that have to do with... Oh, oh. Charlie Samuels. Of course. The Phillies manager. Nice.

Charlie Daniels made a deal with the devil to manage the Braves or something.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

The investigation has apparently been up and running since early in the season, no?

That makes Backman involvement-- as well as some of the other speculation up in hyeah-- a little less likely, no?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, I am merely speculating, but my speculation was more about suggesting that he maybe knew what Charlie Hustle was up to back in the eighties, and still had enough connections to know that Samuels was still at it and moreso, but not necessarily that he was ringed in himself these days. (But maybe.)

[smg58]

The speculation can go crazy if you're not careful. Especially when what we do know is more than damning enough.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

smg58 wrote: The speculation can go crazy if you're not careful. Especially when what we do know is more than damning enough.

Which reminds me... did anyone else hear something about Wally having mercury-poisoned Sparky Anderson?

[ashie62]

The world of Illegal gambling is a small one. Eventually, the real players on each side are aware of each other.

[ashie62]

Charlie bet on baseball and football. He embezzelled to do it.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/14246494/mets-clubhouse-manager-admits-to-betting-on-baseball

[TransMonk]

This is bad. Worse than punching your father-in-law bad.

Gah.

[G-Fafif]

TransMonk wrote: This is bad. Worse than punching your father-in-law bad.

That's the tagline that will appear on the billboard with K-Rod's face as part of the Mets' 2011 ad campaign: IT COULD BE A WHOLE LOT WORSE.

[HahnSolo]

It is bad...but could be worse. What if he's not the only one...and he starts implicating players? Because at some point he is gonna talk.