2010's Last IGT - 106th World Series: San Francisco v Texas

[Guest Edgy DC]

History is full of teams with splendid pitching and modestly capable make-do batting lineups who win the big tomato:

[list:1upbyzbt][*:1upbyzbt]the aforementioned 2005 White Sox;[/*:m:1upbyzbt]
[*:1upbyzbt]the 1985 Cardinals;[/*:m:1upbyzbt]
[*:1upbyzbt]the 1988 Dodgers;[/*:m:1upbyzbt]
[*:1upbyzbt]the 1962 Dodgers;[/*:m:1upbyzbt]
[*:1upbyzbt]the... um... 1924 Senators.[/*:m:1upbyzbt][/list:u:1upbyzbt]

I'm not sure why I should hold the San Franciscos in particular contempt.

[Willets Point]

The 1906 White Sox were the "Hitless Wonders."

[batmagadanleadoff]

• the aforementioned 2005 White Sox;
• the 1985 Cardinals;
• the 1988 Dodgers;
• the 1962 Dodgers;
• the... um... 1924 Senators.

I'm not sure why I should hold the San Franciscos in particular contempt.

Edgy DC wrote: History is full of teams with splendid pitching and modestly capable make-do batting lineups who win the big tomato:

I don't hold the Giants in contempt. I also think that the '85 Cards were a fine hitting team and a formidable foe of Davey's Mets -- Despite their lack of power (that was the year of Jack Clark and seven leadoff hitters, no?) the '85 Cards were one of the NL's better hitting teams. McGee and Clark turned in MVP caliber hitting seasons; Ozzie Smith and Tommie Herr hit like all-stars and were among the very best hitters at their respective positions. Ozzie might've been the best hitting NL shortstop in '85. He could've qualified for the AS game on his hitting alone, even though, on top of that, his fielding was Ruthian.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: He could've qualified for the AS game on his hitting alone, even though, on top of that, his fielding was Ruthian.

That's a great description right there.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The 1985 Cards were deceptively good hitters and shouldn't be included there. The league skewed toward average that year, and they rank high among an unimpressive lot in OPS+. And even that's deceptive, as OPS weights OBP and SLG evenly, and OPB is in fact more important.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy DC wrote: The 1985 Cards were deceptively good hitters and shouldn't be included there....

A little help. I don't follow. The '85 Cards shouldn't be included ... "where?"

[batmagadanleadoff]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: He could've qualified for the AS game on his hitting alone, even though, on top of that, his fielding was Ruthian. That's a great description right there.

Thanks. I know how much everybody here loves a positive Yankee analogy. BTW, is the Bambino a Yankee, or an MFY? This could be its own thread.

[Gwreck]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy DC wrote: The 1985 Cards were deceptively good hitters and shouldn't be included there.... A little help. I don't follow. The '85 Cards shouldn't be included ... "where?"

The list of World Series winners, for a start.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Gwreck wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy DC wrote: The 1985 Cards were deceptively good hitters and shouldn't be included there.... A little help. I don't follow. The '85 Cards shouldn't be included ... "where?" The list of World Series winners, for a start.

[Guest Edgy DC]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy DC wrote: The 1985 Cards were deceptively good hitters and shouldn't be included there.... A little help. I don't follow. The '85 Cards shouldn't be included ... "where?"

On my list. You seemed to take issue with their presence and I agreed.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy DC wrote: The 1985 Cards were deceptively good hitters and shouldn't be included there. The league skewed toward average that year, and they rank high among an unimpressive lot in OPS+. And even that's deceptive, as OPS weights OBP and SLG evenly, and OPB is in fact more important.

I don't think they were deceptively good. They were good. They had a few hitters putting in career seasons, simultaneously -- common among pennant winning teams. (See, e.g., Mets, 1969) Also, I don't follow why you'd dock those Cards for not "skewing towards average" as much as the other teams. Shouldn't they be credited for that. Isn't that like saying so and so led the league in HR's, but only because he hit more HR's than any other player?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Come on. I agreed with you. Try not to do this.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I was confused. When you wrote that they didn't belong on the list, I thought it was because you realized that they lost the '85 WS. But now I get it. OK.

The Babe: Yankee or MFY?

[metsmarathon]

so the worst hitting champion since 1985 was the '85 royals. the worst pitching champion was the '06 cards.

i think. for some reason, the red sox, philly and twins pages on bbref are blocked at work. very curious...

regardless, here's the breakdown, ranked from best champion to worst.

[table:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]Team[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]B1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]B2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]B3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]B4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]B5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]B6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]B7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]B8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]Btot[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]P1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]P2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]P3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]P4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]P5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]P6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]Ptot[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]Ttot[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]98 NYY[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]7.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]37.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]19.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]57.5[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]02 ANA[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]36.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]14.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]50.3[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]86 NYM[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]29.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]20.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]50[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]09 MFY[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]34.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]15[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]49.9[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]93 TOR[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]8.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]32.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]13.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]45.5[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]92 TOR[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]27.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]17.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]45.3[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]01 ARI[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]7.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]18.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]8.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]7.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]23.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]42.2[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]89 OAK[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]24.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]17.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]42[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]99 NYY[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]22.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]18.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]41.1[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]96 NYY[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]17.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]23.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]41[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]05 CHW[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]17.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]23.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]40.9[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]90 CIN[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]18[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]22.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]40.8[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]10 SFG[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]21.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]17.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]39.6[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]03 FLA[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]22.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]17.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]39.3[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]00 NYY[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]22[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]17.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]39.3[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]88 LAD[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]7.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]21[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]7.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]18.2[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]39.2[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]85 KCR[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.9[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.8[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.5[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]0.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]14.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6.7[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]6.3[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]4.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]3.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]2.1[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]1.6[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]24.4[/td:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]38.8[/td:2o3137ur][/tr:2o3137ur][tr:2o3137ur][td:2o3137ur]06 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i would not have expected the angels to be so strong...

[G-Fafif]

The 2005 White Sox went 99-63 and were in first place wire-to-wire in the regular season (with the Tribe nipping at their heels late in the year but never catching them) and then swept the defending champion Red Sox, took the Angels 4-1 in the ALCS and swept the Astros in four tight games.

Whatever the internals indicate, that was a great team for one year, which is all you have to be (that, and a little lucky).

[Centerfield]

I can only wonder how happy Mad Dog must be. I wish he and Francesa were still together so Mike would have to suffer through the gloating.

[metirish]

Centerfield wrote: I can only wonder how happy Mad Dog must be. I wish he and Francesa were still together so Mike would have to suffer through the gloating.

Now there's a name rare;ly mentioned anymore.....Mad Dog, anyone listen to him?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ever?

[G-Fafif]

A friend with Sirius passes along this report:

He�s going over every Giants memory of his life-where he was and what he was doing. It�s a wrong team audio Cliff Notes version of your book. Couldn�t even DISCUSS 2000. (�Forget the Mets. Forget the Mets.�)

Will always cherish the memory of the spontaneous "CHRIS RUSSO SUCKS!" chant that erupted as I approached the turnstile for the 7 after the Bobby Jones game.

[G-Fafif]

George Vecsey pays local homage.

All was right in the firmaments for the Giants because management respected its past, did not pretend that the Giants landed in 1958, mysteriously steaming into the bay like it was El Dorado. The Giants came from uptown Manhattan. They had been there since 1883. Two years later, the owner-manager Jim Mutrie was so enamored of his sturdy lads swatting the ball that he gloated �My giants!� and the nickname stuck. They were the team of the carriage trade when the Yankees (nee Highlanders) and the Trolley Dodgers, the motley Brooklyn franchise, were irrelevant. The Giants and the Cubs were the best teams in the National League in the first quadrant of the last century. The Giants barnstormed to Japan and so impressed their hosts that the orange-and-black uniforms were picked up by the team that dominates that nation to this day, the Yomiuri Giants. The Giants had a hold on New York, including families like the Whitneys and the Walkers. One Whitney, married name Joan Payson, eventually bought the new team, the Mets. She had a minority stockholder named Herbert Walker, charming guy, had relatives named Bush. I often wonder what became of that family. Maybe they still follow baseball. Dunno. The Giants also had Irish fans, like the McGuinness men, who were like uncles to me, who took me to my first game at the Polo Grounds and chortled when the Giants beat my Dodgers on a chintzy home run. The Giants also claimed Vic Ziegel from the Bronx. When he became one of the great and funny voices in New York, he had a vocation of standing up for his departed team, once tracking down the modest plaque in a housing development that notes where the Polo Grounds used to be. Do I think it is a coincidence that Vic departed this world in late July and the Giants won the World Series in early November? Not really. Credit must also go to the inspired management of the Giants, which found role players, and had the courage to bench expensive parts like Barry Zito. As Tyler Kepner pointed out in The Times on Tuesday, there is probably a lesson to other teams about cautious spending. There is another lesson: the Giants respected history. They brought back Barry Bonds to throw out a ball during the League Championship Series. They brought back McCovey, Marichal, Perry, Cepeda and Irvin for the first game of the World Series. (Willie Mays was sick.) That fine man, Monte Irvin, now 91, went to the mound in a wheelchair. The next night, Dave Dravecky, who pitched for the Giants and later lost an arm to cancer, visited the mound. Bobby Thomson�s two daughters, tossed out the first pitches. Now Vic Ziegel�s cockatiel can start practicing new words. The Giants win the World Series! The Giants win the World Series!

[stevejrogers]

G-Fafif wrote: A friend with Sirius passes along this report: He�s going over every Giants memory of his life-where he was and what he was doing. It�s a wrong team audio Cliff Notes version of your book. Couldn�t even DISCUSS 2000. (�Forget the Mets. Forget the Mets.�) Will always cherish the memory of the spontaneous "CHRIS RUSSO SUCKS!" chant that erupted as I approached the turnstile for the 7 after the Bobby Jones game.

I met Russo at a book signing once, and instead of his book I had him autograph the program from that game. He did appear to be gracious about it and didn't give any sort of "Geez, you want me to sign THIS" attitude.

[Frayed Knot]

World Series factoids:

- The non-hitting Giants scored a total of 29 runs over the 5 games. The high-scoring Rangers totaled 29 hits.

- A total of just 14 runs were scored during the three games in Arlington. 13 of them came via HRs

[G-Fafif]

Came across Chris Russo reliving his Giants life, in two parts:

;

.

If you can forget how much you couldn't stand Chris Russo, how grossly overcompensated he is for what he does and what a Met baiter he was when things weren't going swimmingly for us, it's not bad.

[Fman99]

He's on XM now, I listen to him on my drive home sometimes. He seemed happy without gloating about it.

[metirish]

Some great pictures here.....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2010/11/03/BAM51G6DMS.DTL&object=/n/p/2010/11/03/f4e578ef-039c-40eb-8ad8-f94c4cd6caf5.jpg

[DocTee]

Nice to see the Giants honor their history by inviting past greats to participate, and that the parade route was the exact same one used for the official welcoming in 1958.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Anbody know why they invited Alzado?


Saints alive! There's a saint alive in that niche back there!


Dudes... duderinos... little bros... smokin' babes... it's all good.

[HahnSolo]

Came across Chris Russo reliving his Giants life, in two parts: Part I here; Part II here. If you can forget how much you couldn't stand Chris Russo, how grossly overcompensated he is for what he does and what a Met baiter he was when things weren't going swimmingly for us, it's not bad.

He still says 'renember' instead of 'remember'.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

The cable cars may have been an obvious choice, but they were a great one.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

From Yahoo Questions;

Why does Tim Lincecum & Brian Wilson have trouble articulating their thoughts when they speak? I have noticed whenever they are asked questions during interviews they always mumble and pause between words because they can't articulate their thoughts into a full sentence.. what is the cause of this speech impediment that they suffer from?

Best Answer chosen by Asker:

Baseball Girl (w/ Texas Rangers avatar) wrote: Because they are smoking weed just like their fans.