Senga, Peterson, Manaea

[Centerfield]

I feel like a lot of our success will depend on how these three bounce back. If 2 of the 3 are good, should be in decent shape. If all 3 are bad, we’re likely going to struggle. 
 

So far only Senga has been good. The other two have struggled. And Senga is, unfortunately, the most fragile of the three. 
 

I think Peterson will find it. I fear Manaea is kinda shot. 

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm also more concerned about Manaea than about Peterson.

If two of them fizzle there's still Myers, Scott, and Tong, but of course it's much better if they don't have to start using up their depth too quickly. It seems like the most important thing in recent years is to not run out of starting pitchers. 

[metirish]

I'm very worried about all three and am hoping they all stay healthy,  Manaea seemed like a big get when we signed him back , not sure what happened 

[Edgy MD]

Well, they are currently sitting on a rare Opening-Day six-man set as it is, so they've certainly built in as much redundancy as one can hope.  But redundancy of all levels can break down when it comes to pitching.  The championship move is always building the next generation, top to bottom.

Other starters we likely will see this year: Jack Wenninger, Aaron Rozek, Joander "Vandermeer" Suarez, and (if yesterday is any indicator) Zach Thornton.

 

[Lefty Specialist]

Manaea is the most concerning.  His fastball was clocking in the upper 80's.  That doesn't play at this level and may be an indication of something deeper and more problematic.

[Edgy MD]

I suspect that:

1. Senga beats out Manaea for the fifth and final spot in the rotation.
2. Senga still doesn't start until Game 10 or so, due to the open schedule in the first two weeks.
3. Manaea gets IL'd.
4. He additionally gets Extended Spring Training'd.
5. He re-emerges in May out of the bullpen, unless another starter goes down.  Either way, he will try to ration his bullets.
6. And we will see how that goes.

[A Boy Named Seo]

As if to say, "chill, my homies," Manaea went four perfect innings today with 4 Ks.

[Cowtipper]

I'm calling a breakout year for Peterson. You know how decent-but-not-great pitchers sometimes randomly have that 15-9, 3.41 ERA type season? I'm calling that for Peterson this year. I'm not too hopeful about Senga or Manaea, but both have the ability to surprise. 

[Edgy MD]

1 hour ago, A Boy Named Seo said:

As if to say, "chill, my homies," Manaea went four perfect innings today with 4 Ks.

That's a sweet reply.

Velocity ain't everything.

 

[MFS62]

I'm not concerned with Peterson. As I posted last year, he just ran out of gas. He pitched more innings than he had ever pitched in a season, and he hit a wall. I think he will be more accustomed to working more innings going forward.

As for Senga, he's our Faberge egg - beautiful but fragile. 

Manaea will have to stay on today's track for us to have confidence in him.

Later

[Gwreck]

I could see Manaea being used as a piggyback reliever too, particularly with Holmes or McLean.  I believe Britton suggested that was a possibility too, given the early season off days and lack of need for a 6th starter.

[metsmarathon]

I worry the most about Manaea. 
 

yes Senga is fickle, but if he’s healthy he’s ON. Peterson just needs to get length but he’s so solid. Manaea feels like maybe that one cool trick might’ve worn off a bit. 

[Centerfield]

I'm worried about Peterson.

I think it may be a stuff thing.  I don't see his stuff as being that good.  When he's good, I can't figure out how he's getting outs.  When he's bad, he's getting hit all over the stadium.

[Centerfield]

[Gwreck]

In fairness, Manaea has a 0.00 ERA…

[Centerfield]

All three of them suck. 

[The Hot Corner]

Larry, Curly, and Moe.

[Edgy MD]

The problem ain't starting pitching.

[Centerfield]

The Mets are 20th in MLB in starter ERA. It’s not the biggest problem but it is very much a problem.

[Edgy MD]

I don't think so.  It can be thrown one way or another by one start and normalize pretty fast.

Plus, David Peterson's 3 2/3 innings of shutout ball against a top-hitting club didn't go down as a start.

Watch the hitting.  Pitchers pitching with no margin of error also end up beating themselves.

[The Hot Corner]

13 hours ago, Edgy MD said:

Watch the hitting.  Pitchers pitching with no margin of error also end up beating themselves.

It is tough to pitch knowing that if you give up a single run, you may not get a win.  Give up two runs and you likely will take a loss.  The lack of offense often causes the pitchers to press and try to be too fine with their pitches.  Which in turn leads to falling behind and a lot of deep counts that favor the hitter.

[Cowtipper]

Peterson is moving to the bullpen. I didn't have this on my bingo card. Two years ago he looked like he finally figured it out, going 10-3 with a 2.90 ERA. Last year, he was rock solid into August, before falling apart in the home stretch. And now he's off to the 'pen. Crazy. 

[Frayed Knot]

Also Peterson, I just recently realized, is both the longest tenured Met AND is a FA at the end of the season.

So the phrase 'make or break season' gets thrown around too much, particularly with young players, but for Peterson it really is. For him it's maybe the difference between a FA contract vs hoping for a ST invite.

[Lefty Specialist]

Christian Scott getting the start on Thursday.  So what happens to Senga?

[seawolf17]

I think the Mets are hoping he forgot to get on the plane from Chicago.

[Edgy MD]

I'm hoping he got on the plane.

[Gwreck]

18 hours ago, Lefty Specialist said:

Christian Scott getting the start on Thursday.  So what happens to Senga?

Senga is starting Saturday against the Rockies.

[Centerfield]

All three are garbage. 

[Frayed Knot]

Just now, Centerfield said:

All three are garbage. 

Sometimes in the same game!

[Gwreck]

45 minutes ago, Centerfield said:

All three are garbage. 

Or hurt.  I’m certainly convinced that Manaea’s not been healthy for a long time.