Mendoza Fired

[metirish]

 

 

https://x.com/i/status/2070499338908762175

[metirish]

Andy Green interim 

[seawolf17]

[Benjamin Grimm]

Is anyone surprised?

 

[DocTee]

A month too late. Should've happened after that disastrous LAD-CHI roadtrip.   I take no joy in someone losing their job but man this was long overdo

 

[smg58]

The first half of the Wednesday doubleheader was the end for me.  Neither McLean nor Pintaro should have been kept in to pitch to Swanson.  Then the team went and played the second game like they'd stopped caring.  The writing was on the wall.

As usual, in these situations, the manager precedes the GM to the door.  

[smg58]

To be fair, Mendoza got the team to rise out of an early-season performance two years ago that, after sixty games at least, was worse than this year.  Then and now, I felt circumstances were mostly not in his control.  I was willing to give him the opportunity to get this team out of their funk, until Wednesday.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mendy's place in Mets history:

[Edgy MD]

Important to stay on long enough to get more wins than Jerry Manuel.

[seawolf17]

(Ooh, Beltran on the manager list. I mean, I guess, technically, yeah.)

[whippoorwill]

So it’s true…

[metirish]

 

Shut up ,Steve 

[whippoorwill]

Go fishing Mendy. You’re free now 

[MFS62]

Somebody in management had to go to shake up things. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. He had to work with the players he had, and the roster has too many holes. And he wasn't exactly a brilliant tactician. He should be holding Stearns' hand as they both walk out the door.

Later

[Edgy MD]

It's not Mendoza's fault?

Maybe, but it's not not his fault.  Plenty of fault to go around.

But no, I don't believe the men on the roster are chicken shit.

[whippoorwill]

But I laughed at MFS’s analogy 

[metirish]

I liked Mendoza , seems like a really decent man ,unfortunately things just never got going this season and went from bad to worse 

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree. It's not entirely his fault, but he has to get a share of the blame. 

And so does the guy who fired him.

And so does the guy who hired the guy who fired him.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Felt like Mendy did a lot of things right but he lacked that motivation gene. Over and over demonstrated he couldn't pull the club out of a slide. This year I felt like the team just wasn't prepared to compete on day 1 and that's on him to an extent. To be totally fair to Mendy I'd have fired him after the Phillies series not the Cubs.

[Cowtipper]

The most milquetoast and uninspiring manager since I got into the Mets and I lived through Art Howe and Jerry Manuel. 

[Edgy MD]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Lunchbucket said:

Felt like Mendy did a lot of things right but he lacked that motivation gene. Over and over demonstrated he couldn't pull the club out of a slide. This year I felt like the team just wasn't prepared to compete on day 1 and that's on him to an extent. To be totally fair to Mendy I'd have fired him after the Phillies series not the Cubs.

Their hearts really haven't been in it since then, truly.  But it takes different folks different lengths of time to get over their denial.

After the Cardinals, Braves, and Reds series were tempting times too.

There was that day off in the middle of the Phillies series.  Some guys see those days as a good time to make a big move.  Others see it and hope it's a good time for a team to recover and reset.

[Lefty Specialist]

Welp, it was overdue but it won't change things.  This was always a flawed roster.  Andy Green isn't going to be able to do much more with it than Carlos Mendoza did.  They do, however, seem to be sleepwalking right now.

[ashie62]

Mendoza had emotionally checked himself out from about the time he got the vote of confidence 

There is plenty of blame to go around from the very very top to the roster and Mendoza has earned his share

I've thought that Mendoza was painfully pulling starters early. I worn out removing guys on the third time around the order although Stearns may have been in his ear on that

I had a VERY hard time telling if Mendoza or Stearns was the true manager

[The Hot Corner]

Too little, too late.  

Mendoza shares the balme for this debacle of a season, however, I feel that a greater share of the blame falls on Stearns for a series of moves that have (to put it nicely) not worked out.  The roster he put together and handed to Mendoza had far too many question marks and relied on far too many players to have "bounce back" seasons, often at new positions.

[Cowtipper]

He made some of the dumbest pitching moves I've ever seen. He relied way too much on the algorithm even if it defied common sense.

Also I said in the game thread yesterday that if the Mets lose, you'll see another trade within a few days, if not sooner. Well, this wasn't a trade ....... but I was directionally accurate. II had my doubters, but you know, I'm used to being doubted and winding up right in the long run, so it's okay. 

[Radar]

6 hours ago, metirish said:

 

Shut up ,Steve 

Okay, I suppose as always.... Just change the manager, you know it's the manager. BS, okay was he a great manager? No but he's a better manager than our 10 million a year genius general manager. He's a better manager than our free spending but clueless owner. But still I understand the manager always takes the rap. Rant over in saying I understand completely the criticism us fans have with Mendoza but he's not THE problem. Smug boy genius better be next .