Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

[G-Fafif]

Leg issue on the basepaths.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Not good, but he has plenty of time to recover.

[metirish]

Hopefully nothing serious, plenty of time to heal , no more of that carry-on until Spring Training

[Fman99]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[A Boy Named Seo]

Looked like that right knee buckled. Glad he was able to walk off. Edwin Diaz sure couldn't when he did his ACL.

[Edgy MD]

Two guys hurt in separate incidents on the same pitch.



Looks like the longstanding tradition of bloodbath battles between Licey and Aguila continues.

[The Hot Corner]

The way his right leg gave out, when he tried to stop and return to first, looked pretty bad. Luckily, he was able to eventually walk off under his own power. Hopefully just a mild strain or sprain. The Mets can't afford to lose any of their players.

[G-Fafif]

It's https://sny.tv/articles/source-mets-ronny-mauricio-undergoing-tests-for-knee-injurythe knee.

[metirish]

Oh wow

[Fman99]

[bIGPURPLE]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[/bIGPURPLE]

[Benjamin Grimm]

The Cleveland Clinic wrote: It usually takes six to nine months to recover from a torn ACL. Competitive athletes may need a little longer than this to heal fully before they're cleared to return to their sport. Your provider will tell you when you can resume physical activities.

Nine months would put us in mid-September. So yeah, unless he heals quickly, this looks like he'll miss the 2024 season.

[MFS62]

Joe Schultz.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

The three-way competition for the third base job is now down to two, Baty and Vientos. Or three, if you count Joey Wendle. I think the Mets may have to reevaluate their stance that the position will be filled from within. Maurico (in my mind, anyway) was the leading candidate.

[bmfc1]

This year's likely starting 3B is gone. Stop playing baseball for other teams (the Mets consented to this and should have told him to rest).

[bmfc1]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The three-way competition for the third base job is now down to two, Baty and Vientos. Or three, if you count Joey Wendle. I think the Mets may have to reevaluate their stance that the position will be filled from within. Maurico (in my mind, anyway) was the leading candidate.

Unless they decide to go after Matt Chapman.

[Edgy MD]

Strange that, like Diaz, it happened under ordinary, non-contact use. Sort of, anyhow. It's an injury associated with soccer, and the break-and-stop maneuver on the basepath is a lot like what soccer players do for a living, but their ACLs blow after they do it hundreds and hundreds of times in a row.



Hard to say whether it happens if he's under the care of Mets trainers. Anecdotally, I think of blown ACLs as more common in amateur soccer than the pros, so maybe, but what do I know? But it's certainly not crazy to think that more rest over the winter would have made this less likely to happen in spring.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Edgy MD wrote: Strange that, like Diaz, it happened under ordinary, non-contact use. Sort of, anyhow. It's an injury associated with soccer, and the break-and-stop maneuver on the basepath is a lot like what soccer players do for a living, but their ACLs blow after they do it hundreds and hundreds of times in a row. Hard to say whether it happens if he's under the care of Mets trainers. Anecdotally, I think of blown ACLs as more common in amateur soccer than the pros, so maybe, but what do I know? But it's certainly not crazy to think that more rest over the winter would have made this less likely to happen in spring.

The Athletic just ran a piece 5 days ago about the ALC "crisis" in the Premier League. TL;DR it's maybe not as crisis-y as it seems, but there's A LOT of good discussion and guesswork as to the why, including heavy schedule of games, not enough injury preventative training, ramping up training to start a season, tearing the ACL while nursing another injury, type of playing surface, shoes, even genetics. So who the hell knows, it still sucks for Ronny any way you look at it.



https://theathletic.com/5120100/2023/12/08/acl-crisis-premier-league-wsl/https://theathletic.com/5120100/2023/12/08/acl-crisis-premier-league-wsl/



One interesting thing was this:

In the USA, where Kaeding is based, he says 80 per cent of ACL injuries occur in five sports: soccer (football), American football, basketball, rugby and lacrosse. The common denominator between all these says Kaeding is that they are “an aggressive, competitive, cutting sport activity” (cutting meaning an abrupt change of direction).

Mauricio hitting the breaks on the base paths was definitely an abrupt change of direction for his poor knee.

[MFS62]

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Unless they decide to go after Matt Chapman.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Gotta feel for the guy. He finally gets his chance, and then this.

[Lefty Specialist]

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Joe Schultz.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

I hope I don't sound crass here, but will Mauricio be accumulating service time in 2024? Or since he has options, can they stash him on the IL of the Syracuse roster and delay his eligibility for free agency?

[smg58]

With the winter leagues, teams operate under the assumption that the added development of the prospect justifies the injury risk. I'm not at all sure though that I would allow it for anybody who is (or was, I guess) a good bet to make the Opening Day roster.



Urshela had no pop in his bat last year, but if that was due to a nagging injury that he can heal from with the time off he could be a bargain.



I worry that Chapman's approach is exactly the wrong one for our home ball park, and that he'd basically be Todd Frazier with us.

[nymr83]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The Cleveland Clinic wrote: It usually takes six to nine months to recover from a torn ACL. Competitive athletes may need a little longer than this to heal fully before they're cleared to return to their sport. Your provider will tell you when you can resume physical activities. Nine months would put us in mid-September. So yeah, unless he heals quickly, this looks like he'll miss the 2024 season.

Paging Aaron Rodgers' doctor

[duan]

Edgy MD wrote: . Anecdotally, I think of blown ACLs as more common in amateur soccer than the pros, so maybe, but what do I know? But it's certainly not crazy to think that more rest over the winter would have made this less likely to happen in spring.

I'm pretty sure they're not that common in amateur football, I've been playing for almost 30 seasons and know of 1/2 teammates at most.

Where they have become incredibly common is in elite women's football, and there's definitely something that coaches, sports scientists and physios need to figure out

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12926431/future-of-football-why-acl-injuries-have-been-on-rise-in-womens-game-and-the-technology-and-solutions-to-fix-it https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12926431/future-of-football-why-acl-injuries-have-been-on-rise-in-womens-game-and-the-technology-and-solutions-to-fix-it

[nymr83]

I've seen it once in all my years of organized and pick up basketball games

[Edgy MD]

Edgy MD wrote: . Anecdotally, I think of blown ACLs as more common in amateur soccer than the pros, so maybe, but what do I know? But it's certainly not crazy to think that more rest over the winter would have made this less likely to happen in spring. I'm pretty sure they're not that common in amateur football, I've been playing for almost 30 seasons and know of 1/2 teammates at most. Where they have become incredibly common is in elite women's football, and there's definitely something that coaches, sports scientists and physios need to figure out https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12926431/future-of-football-why-acl-injuries-have-been-on-rise-in-womens-game-and-the-technology-and-solutions-to-fix-it https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12926431/future-of-football-why-acl-injuries-have-been-on-rise-in-womens-game-and-the-technology-and-solutions-to-fix-it

Indeed, where I come from, most ACL surgery scars are on women's knees. They recognize them on each other at cocktail parties and instantly bond with each other over their football horror stories.

[Frayed Knot]

There's a theory that women get those kind of drastic knee injuries at a greater rate than male athletes due to simple skeletal structure.

Men, with their narrower hips and tendency towards bowl-legged-ness, have more of a straight line from hips to knees to ankles, where

as females start with the tops of the femurs wider apart tapering down towards narrower 'knock' knees leading to a greater chance of

the knee joint 'folding' inward due to an awkward landing or from the simple starts and cuts as discussed above.



That female athletes get ACL (and similar) tears at a greater rate than males is statistically true (at least in some studies, mostly involving

basketball IIRC). Whether the basic leg structure is The reason or simply A reason is speculation, but it certainly rings true to me.

[duan]

Frayed Knot wrote: That female athletes get ACL (and similar) tears at a greater rate than males is statistically true (at least in some studies, mostly involving basketball IIRC). Whether the basic leg structure is The reason or simply A reason is speculation, but it certainly rings true to me.

It definitely is true at 'top level' women's football (soccer) - though the theory's are far and wide - I think the one that makes most sense to me is that by and large women are going through a very similar set of training structures at the top level of football as the men do and that fails to take into account some simple physiological differences - stuff like hips etc as you detail - and therefore we should be shaping their training slightly differently to take that stuff into account and make their legs less susceptible, rather then the current programme which could be making them develop their physique in such a way as to make them actually 'more' susceptible as while it works for men it does not work as well for women.

[ashie62]

Lefty Specialist wrote: =MFS62 post_id=142783 time=1702407335 user_id=60] Joe Schultz. Later

Debating whether it should be 'fuckshit' or 'shitfuck'.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I can see something like that happening mid season, Acuna playing second and McNeil moving to third.