Fishy David Robertson

[G-Fafif]

Mets trade their closer to Miami, per Athletic.

[G-Fafif]

Two minor league position players are the return.

[nymr83]

Very interesting, he was warming up in the bullpen prior to the rain delay so this must have been completed VERY last minute

[batmagadanleadoff]

Looks like they're throwing in the towel. And to a WC rival, no less.

[G-Fafif]

[Edgy MD]

Rain-delay dealing!



If this deal goes through, he'll leave the team 25th on the all-time save list, tied with Robert Gsellman and Jack Hamilton.

[Gwreck]

This sucks.

[batmagadanleadoff]

So who's gonna replace Robertson in the Mets bullpen (as if it's gonna even matter)? Some ineffective humpty-dumpty reliever, no doubt. And it seems as if the Mets had cycled through 30 or 40 of this type over the last five or so seasons. Times two when Raley's dealt. Maybe Raley's value goes up with Robertson now unavailable to contenders. With the Mets 2023 luck, Raley'll catch a bad case of Covid before he can be traded.



Watch the Mets pen get really toxic and flammable now.

[RealityChuck]

A shortstop and a catcher. Two positions where they're lacking in prospects.

[Lefty Specialist]

Well, teenagers rarely end up at the position they start at. Basically two lottery picks, ranked 18th and 21st in the Miami system.



If there was any doubt, they're throwing in the towel. Back up the truck.

[bmfc1]

Maybe in 3 years, we're saying, "I can't believe we got Vargas for a guy who would be a FA in 2 months" but for now, they acquired two teenagers that will be merely names on a list for 3 years. I thought that they were going for high-level/close to ML-ready players but we have to believe that Billy sees something in these young players.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Billy made it seem like it was an offer he couldn't refuse.



Let's make more deals

[Fman99]

=Gwreck post_id=133045 time=1690517626 user_id=56]This sucks.

[metirish]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Billy made it seem like it was an offer he couldn't refuse. Let's make more deals

Yeah, highly rated prospects apparently, perhaps one day we will look back and praise Billy

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Robertson was our best trading chip. This return seems underwhelming.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=133061 time=1690544711 user_id=119]
Robertson was our best trading chip. This return seems underwhelming.

[ashie62]

They gave Robertson away



Couldn't get Mead or Carson Williams



Wtf

[ashie62]

The Marlins signed Vargas for $17500

[MFS62]

=RealityChuck post_id=133052 time=1690542628 user_id=82]
A shortstop and a catcher. Two positions where they're lacking in prospects.

[kcmets]

Not that this has much to do with Robertson or our two new prospects

but I read somewhere the other day that Edwin Diaz is stretching out his

throwing arm and now chucking 150 feet. He wants to pitch in 2023 and

the Mets have not said no-way-jose. Yet.

[Edgy MD]

I don't think any team should eschew acquiring talent at a position where they already have talent. It's all a process with a lot of moving pieces and an unknown future.



I can't imagine how this can be thought of as giving a player away. This is two months of a reliever at the tag end of his career.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Better than the 3 shitty relievers that we got in the Addison Reed deal

[MFS62]

No so much giving this particular player away as it gives the impression of the red flag inching up the flagpole for this season. His leaving lowers their chances for success unless they acquire (or find in the minors) a high leverage reliever of equal ability.



Later

[Edgy MD]

I'm not sure what a red flag is representing here. (A socialist uprising? A potentially bad boyfriend? Danger at the beach?)



The giving the player away locution was ashie's.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I would have preferred getting someone closer to the big leagues, maybe a AAA outfielder or starting pitcher, but I have to assume that the Mets made the best deal that was available to them.

[metsmarathon]

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/miami-marlins-top-29-prospects-2023/fangraphs

has vargas as the marlins #9 prospect, and hernandez at 24, at least as of the end of may.



vargas is a young infielder with a 60 future hit tool, and hernandez a catcher with a 55 hit tool.



bottom line on vargas per their prospect report is "Because a special hit tool is the most important thing a prospect can have, Vargas is (by a wide margin) the teenage hitter in this org most likely to become a big league regular down the line."



and for hernandez, "He's a solid long-term prospect at a premium position."



not bad, i suppose. maybe something to dream on.



i might've rather gotten a pair of pitchers back, but i ain't too unhappy with this. i don't think the going rate on a david robertson was a top-five, ready-for-the-show prospect.

[MFS62]

Edgy MD wrote: I'm not sure what a red flag is representing here. (A socialist uprising? A potentially bad boyfriend? Danger at the beach?)

The White flag of surrender is more common. But I was thinking auto racing where a red flag signals that the race stops immediately, regardless of position of cars on the track.





Later

[Fman99]

Just because the Mets are set at SS and C doesn't mean these guys can't learn other positions, or become useful chips in some deal down the line. I'm OK with the return in exchange for a 2+ month rental. It wouldn't shock me if they brought DR back in 2024 either.

[ashie62]

They did not hold out for any top Ray

[metirish]

Look like studs to me