bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 https://twitter.com/NYDNSports/status/1220043079241080832https://twitter.com/NYDNSports/status/1220043079241080832Good article from last year: https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-rojas-analytics-quality-control-metshttps://www.mlb.com/news/luis-rojas-analytics-quality-control-mets
Johnny Lunchbucket Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 alright, I'm good with this
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 “My first move will be not allowing my cousin Mel anywhere near the bullpen.”
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 2020-WhenHeLiesToTheMedia
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41-ZxVJX8FL.jpg>Curbing my enthusiasm for now. If he was so great they'd have hired him in the first place.
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Lefty Specialist wrote:If he was so great they'd have hired him in the first place.Yup ©But that was going to be the case with anyone unless they changed plansand decided to plunk down big money on a Dustwalter or someone.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Great guys they hired in the first place include Mickey Callaway and Willie Randolph and Art Howe.
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Author Posted January 22, 2020 Keith Hernandez is "stunned" and "floored" and thinks that they needed an experienced manager for a "win-now" team.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 I kind of want an all-Rojas/Alou staff.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Keith Hernandez is "stunned" and "floored" and thinks that they needed an experienced manager for a "win-now" team.Was he also 'stunned and floored' when they announced Beltran, or is this more a case of 'I don't know him therefore he can't be any good'?I actually thought they might go the experience route after the Beltran hire crashed, both because of the need for 'stability' and if anyone knows how to over-correct it's the 'Pons.I thought they might turn to Showalter which I would have been OK with (even if not thrilled) but recoiled at the rumors of Dusty with whom the Astros are talking to (talk about your over-correcting ... the Astros would be going from the cutting edge of the analytics spectrum to the completely opposite extreme w/Baker).
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Author Posted January 22, 2020 https://twitter.com/Pete_Alonso20/status/1220062128071237639https://twitter.com/Pete_Alonso20/status/1220062128071237639
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 How old is he? Like 14?So this is Felipe's son, Moises's brother? Doesn't look anything like Moises. I guess that's a good thing. Moises always kinda reminded me of the guy from Fine Young Cannibals.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Benjamin Grimm wrote:Great guys they hired in the first place include Mickey Callaway and Willie Randolph and Art Howe.And Gil Hodges and Bobby Valentine and Davey Johnson.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) =Centerfield post_id=30332 time=1579721322 user_id=65]How old is he? Like 14?So this is Felipe's son, Moises's brother? Doesn't look anything like Moises. I guess that's a good thing. Moises always kinda reminded me of the guy from Fine Young Cannibals. Edited January 22, 2020 by Guest
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 They say he's a good communicator, and makes good decisions. That sounds promising. I would like to hear that he buys into analytics, but in the end I'm guessing Jeff will still be pulling the strings.I think he was the guy who acted as the messenger between the front office and Mickey last year, so doesn't bode well for those hoping for autonomy. Anyway, I have no opinion. The Mickey Callaway era taught me that you can't trust a thing that is written about a manager before he is hired.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 =Centerfield post_id=30337 time=1579722219 user_id=65]The Mickey Callaway era taught me that you can't trust a thing that is written about a manager before he is hired.
Guest 41Forever Guests Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 And then Felipe was married four times (to two fellow Dominicans, one American, and one Canadian), had ten children in total, and went and named three of the five sons Felipe. Seems like this would make things unnecessarily complicated.I think this is a good hire. Knows the players. Has managing experience. Just because they picked Beltran doesn't Rojas would be a bad pick.Saw this: When Rojas manages his first game for the Mets while following in the footsteps of his father, Felipe, he will join Connie and Earle Mack, George and Dick Sisler, Bob and Joel Skinner, Buddy and David Bell, and Bob and Aaron Boone as father/son duos to manage in Major League Baseball, according to James Wagner of The New York Times.It totally slipped my mind that Felipe was a manager -- and that he did it so long! And he got to manage the 1995 NL All-Star team for having the best record in the season cut short.
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Keith Hernandez is "stunned" and "floored" and thinks that they needed an experienced manager for a "win-now" team.Damn I keep turning off twitter just when the good stuff happens
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Never mind Keef, what does his cat think of Rojas?
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 https://twitter.com/Pete_Alonso20/status/1220062128071237639If's the ROY is happy...
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Never mind Keef, what does his cat think of Rojas?He thinks it's a purrfect choice.Sorry, couldn't resist
LWFS Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 Lefty Specialist wrote:Benjamin Grimm wrote:Great guys they hired in the first place include Mickey Callaway and Willie Randolph and Art Howe.And Gil Hodges and Bobby Valentine and Davey Johnson.These guys didn't hire those guys.He seems promising, has the support of most of the locker room, and is more than a little conversant with both metrics and baseball lifeishness. I'm all right with it.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2020 Posted January 22, 2020 If Alonso is good with it so am I
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 =ashie62 post_id=30383 time=1579762322 user_id=90]If Alonso is good with it so am I
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Of course nobody knows how this is going to work out, but:*he's coached alot of these guys before in the minors and they like him;*he has actual managerial experience down there;*He's been with the organization for a long while now, and is well regarded internally;*his coaching role this year was to participate in discussions of in-game strategies and the use of analytics, so he's at least conversant with those tools; and* his baseball lineage means he's grown up in the game, so his youth doesn't necessarily work against him.How he "handles NY" (i.e., the media) remains to be seen, but he's certainly not going to be any worse at it than the thin-skinned Beltran. Given that ST starts in a few weeks, and Brodie wasn't going to give the keys over to a Showalter or some other outsider demanding total control, I think this was as good a choice as they could have made under the circumstances (with a sigh of relief that they passed on Dusty), and i'm much more hopeful now than i was when they hired Beltran. The guy's young but he seems to actually have some qualifications, so that's a nice change.but yes, we'll see.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 I was excited by the reactions too. Reminds me a bit of Davey in 1984, where he knew those guys from the minors.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Vic Sage wrote: (with a sigh of relief that they passed on Dusty)Yes.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Vic Sage wrote: (with a sigh of relief that they passed on Dusty)Yes.Yeah, a huge bullet dodged there.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 His credentials are so good, it makes me wonder why they hired Beltran in the first place.It seems like he checked off more qualification boxes (except for being a well known ex-player) than Beltran did.And, I'm doing a happy dance that it wasn't Dusty.Later
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