#%@! this!!! - Venting and Overreaction Thread

[G-Fafif]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Now if Cespedes starts flinging firecrackers at people and Noah squirts bleach at reporters, all bets are off.

Slippery slope to a column in the Post, should Wally Matthews wind up back there.

[Edgy MD]

I think Reyés—as the former stolen base champ on professional thin ice in the back half of his career—plays the firecracker-tossing role in this scenario.

Céspedes does seem more likely to mess up Syndergaard's arm with a golf club, though.

[G-Fafif]

Before there were firecrackers, Coleman was messing up Doc with a golf club, and who is more likely to be swinging one of those in the clubhouse than Cespedes?

T.J. no doubt offering tours of the Bronx already. Well-mannered tours of the Bronx, but still.

And deGrom seems to have gone as long without a win as AY.

[TransMonk]

Vic Sage wrote: I'd rather see TJ Rivera in there everyday until Flores is back. He's shown an adequate glove and a line-drive bat. Whatever we'd have to give up for Frazier would be too much.

This is where I am at as well.

[G-Fafif]

G-Fafif wrote: Here's an overreaction: The Mets have the same record they had after nineteen games in 1993.

Also, the same record they had after twenty-one games in 1993.

[Centerfield]

WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE WORLD FUCKING SERIES.

(We can overreact both ways right?)

[Guest cooby]

I don't see why not

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

CF & cooby, I suggest you both stay away from sharp implements and refrain from operating heavy machinery until the Kool-Aid wears off.

[MFS62]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Now if Cespedes starts flinging firecrackers at people and Noah squirts bleach at reporters, all bets are off.

As I've said before, Vince Coleman did NOT intentionally throw that firecracker into the crowd.
He missed the cutoff man.

Later

[Guest Clueless Koolaid Guzzler]

Rockin' Doc wrote: CF & cooby, I suggest you both stay away from sharp implements and refrain from operating heavy machinery until the Kool-Aid wears off.

Lay off the Koolaid jokes. The Mets are going all the way. Lets Go Mets!

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Mmmmm Kool Aid

[Edgy MD]

I don't know what is to become of tomorrow, but tonight ... tonight we tango.

[Elster88]

Thank you Dr. Syndergaard.

[Edgy MD]

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Apparently Noah doesn't know his body as well as he thought he did.

Hopefully, he didn't hurt his arm too bad by pitching after refusing to have an MRI examination.

[Batty31]

Put a fork in this season..

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

What a train wreck this season has become. Most football teams have a lower injury frequency than the Mets are having this season. It makes me question the strength and conditioning program for the team as well as the wisdom of relying upon so many veteran (older) players to fill everyday roles.

[Lefty Specialist]

Well, now the starter every fifth day will be...........................Gilmartin, he of the 13.50 ERA? Montero, who's had more chances than Steve Howe and screwed up every one of them? Kevin Plawecki? Doug Sisk? I mean, who?

Anyone not currently on the 40-man that they can take a flyer on? They should have signed Doug Fister to a minor league deal and stashed him in Vegas for something like this.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think we read that Fister didn't want to be stashed in Vegas, but I'm not sure if that's true.

If there's a better pitcher than Gilmartin or Montero in Vegas then I think you find a way to get him on the 40-man roster.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Kristie Ackert, Daily News wrote: Steven Matz, who has a mysterious elbow issue, and Seth Lugo, who is trying to avoid Tommy John surgery with a throwing program and therapy, are just beginning to pitch off the slope of the mound Sunday. Alderson had said that he had backed off looking on the free agent market for pitching because those two could be back by the end of May. An industry source said there is very little starting pitching available via trade or free agency right now. The source said the Mets did go and watch Doug Fister pitch last month, but reports are his fastball is sitting in the high 80’s right now. Rafael Montero is expected to be called up Monday. He is really the Mets only viable option at Triple-A, and he’s not been that viable at the major league level. The right-hander, who was once ranked as a higher prospect than Syndergaard, has a 4.68 ERA and 1.559 WHIP in 12 career major-league starts.

[Zvon]

Batty31 wrote: Put a fork in this season..

I made this today after Noah left the game, but I'm not officially using it yet. So, look away.
I'm not giving up on this team in April.


Not officially posted and does not yet reflect the opinions of this poster.^

[Guest themetfairy]

I can't see how anything can be considered an overreaction at this stage of the game.

[ashie62]

Noah effed up..BIG, and so did Sandy BIG.

Good luck.

Hopefully not wild card also rans 5/1.

I am not calling any ballplayer a superheroes name anymore.

Be well Noah.

[Batty31]

Zvon wrote: I made this today after Noah left the game, but I'm not officially using it yet. So, look away. I'm not giving up on this team in April.

LOL..it's perfect, Zvon. I admire your confidence. Unfortunately mine has left the building this season.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

GOOD GOD, WHO TURNS DOWN MORE INFORMATION ABOUT A TREATABLE HEALTH ISSUE?

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that a player can refuse an MRI. But upon further thought, though, it makes sense. I mean, what the hell can you do? You can't ordinarily force an adult to receive medical treatment. Of course, MLB isn't an ordinary society and this could've been covered in the bargaining agreement. But even if MLB could force a player to undergo medical testing, how does a team handle something like this Thor incident where the player refuses testing? I guess the fringier or more expendable a player is, the more he risks being cut or suspended or some other meaningful penalty. But when it's a star like Syndergaard, what can you do other than to bench him? And if you bench him, for how long do you bench him if he continues to refuse an MRI? If he said he felt fine yesterday, he'll probably say he feels fine tomorrow and the day after, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

It's pretty obvious that Syndergaard put everybody connected in a really bad spot.

[Fman99]

Calamitous.

[Guest El Segundo Escupidor]

[Frayed Knot]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea that a player can refuse an MRI. But upon further thought, though, it makes sense. I mean, what the hell can you do? You can't ordinarily force an adult to receive medical treatment. Of course, MLB isn't an ordinary society and this could've been covered in the bargaining agreement. But even if MLB could force a player to undergo medical testing, how does a team handle something like this Thor incident where the player refuses testing? I guess the fringier or more expendable a player is, the more he risks being cut or suspended or some other meaningful penalty. But when it's a star like Syndergaard, what can you do other than to bench him? And if you bench him, for how long do you bench him if he continues to refuse an MRI? If he said he felt fine yesterday, he'll probably say he feels fine tomorrow and the day after, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

The first thing Ronnie said during the game yesterday when the whole topic came up (though prior to Noah walking off the mound with the injury) was that he wouldn't have agreed to the MRI either. As long as one feels fine, he reasoned, as Syndergaard instead he did, why give them the chance to find something they might not like, especially as it's often said that NO pitcher is going to have pristine pictures taken of their pitching wing? In the meantime, it's my turn to go so let's get out there and do this.

One of the insta-columns on this subject said that Sandy needed to issue Noah an 'MRI or DL' ultimatum but there is a grievance process where players can fight that if they think they're being DL'd while not actually injured. Now maybe Noah takes that route and maybe he doesn't and, yes, there's definitely pecking order where stars will be more likely to take that route than would the marginal player with a more tenuous grip on his roster spot and minor league options still on the team's list of options.

[Lefty Specialist]

themetfairy wrote: I can't see how anything can be considered an overreaction at this stage of the game.

I'd say losing your ace for an indefinite period of time in the process of losing a game by 18 runs and giving up the second most runs ever in 56 seasons, and ending the day in last place, welllll......if you can't overreact then, when CAN you overreact?