Cal Ripken can eat my asshole

[batmagadanleadoff]

Centerfield wrote: Depraved indifference being the key. I have no doubt that Chase Utley didn't go into that slide thinking "Break his leg". I think he went into that slide thinking "Take him out", with a depraved indifference over whether he broke his leg or not. Idiots who drive 100 MPH drunk out of their minds don't do it with an intent to kill people. They do it with a depraved indifference of the lives of others.

I don't think that "depraved indifference" applies to professional baseball. Not that play, anyways.. And any such claim would be countered with an assumption of the risk defense. An infielder assumes the risk that a runner might take him out physically in a slide, even with a dirty slide. It's part of the game. Even illegal slides are part of the game. OTOH, a civilian driver or pedestrian doesn't assume the risk that another motorist is going to drive like an absolute maniac.

[Centerfield]

I don't follow your logic. Perhaps I should clarify my position on this.

Legal Slide vs. Illegal Slide
This is in the rule books. You look at the runner's intent. My biggest complaint about the call was that there were many judgment calls that could have gone the Mets way (3 different judgments in one play) and all of them went the Dodgers' way (and each subsequent one was more egregious than the prior one). When you look at the replay, it is evident that Utley went for Tejada and not the base. By the books, though it is rarely called, this is interference. Therefore, it's illegal.

Dirty vs. Clean
There is no such rule here. Just a subjective assessment. In my opinion, it was a dirty slide. He not only aimed at Tejada, but came in high and did not slide before hitting him. I don't believe he meant to hurt him. I think he had not a care in the world whether he did or not.

Illustrated below:

Clean and Legal:
Runner makes a good faith attempt to slide into second. He slides before hitting the base, but makes no effort to get out of the way of the play and makes contact with the fielder, thus disrupting the double play.

Clean and Illegal:
Runner aims at the fielder (and not the base), but knowing the fielder can get hurt, slides and hits ground first minimizing the risk of injury on the fielder.

Dirty and Legal:
Runner aims toward the base, but either comes in high, or spikes up, or otherwise tailors his slide to increase the risk of injury to the fielder.

Dirty and Illegal (Utley Slide):
Runner aims at the fielder with a complete disregard for the base. Runner slides late, slides high, and drives all of his force into the fielder, thereby increasing the risk of injury.

I'm pissed at the umps for missing that it was illegal (then ruling that the neighborhood play was not in effect, then on top of that awarding Utley the base). I'm pissed at Utley for sliding dirty. And I'm pissed at Collins for not losing his mind over this while it was happening.

[Edgy MD]

dinosaur jesus wrote: Going out of the baseline to take out the fielder does happen all the time, it's almost never called, and it's not generally considered a dirty play.

I disagree with this. To the extent that it isn't called, it's because it's not usually successful. When a player is demonstrably outside the baseline, and does successfully interfere with the completion of the double play, it's called. It's been called on David Wright.

I agree with the rest. It's called dirty when it goes beyond that, when the spikes are high or the runner rolls over the fielder with his hips or torso. Takes him out hard when he's clearly in a vulnerable position.

There are levels of egregiousness and flagrancy to this thing, as noted on the grid Centerfield outlines.

[G-Fafif]

Content aside, this thread's title is my favorite in CPF history.

[Ceetar]

Stephen Colbert suggests the iron maiden as punishment

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[Benjamin Grimm]

G-Fafif wrote: Content aside, this thread's title is my favorite in CPF history.

I wonder if we can get Cal Ripken to play along with a gag? Have him show up on CF's doorstep.

Let's say the kids answer the door and say, "It's Baltimore Oriole legend and Hall of Famer Cal Ripken!"

And Cal says, "Yes, kids, that's right! And I'm here to eat your daddy's asshole!"

[Lefty Specialist]

Dunno, I'm guessing Cal wouldn't go along. Humorless bastard.

[Edgy MD]

>>> "The thing is, kids, Mr. Ripken is such a pro's pro, once he gets started doing it, you know he's gonna make a point of coming back and doing it 2,632 consecutive days."

>>>>> "Well, heh, I don't know about that... ."

>>> "Iron Man, my ass."

>>>>> "Now wait a minute. I worked hard to... ."

>>> "No, you misunderstand. I mean that literally. Iron Man. My ass. Get on it."

[Guest cooby classic]

You know, if this were a whispering campaign, we'd soon be hearing that CFs ass is hard as iron

[seawolf17]

This thread started out so strong, then went way off kilter, and now we're back on focus. Well done, team.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Content aside, this thread's title is my favorite in CPF history. I wonder if we can get Cal Ripken to play along with a gag? Have him show up on CF's doorstep. Let's say the kids answer the door and say, "It's Baltimore Oriole legend and Hall of Famer Cal Ripken!" And Cal says, "Yes, kids, that's right! And I'm here to eat your daddy's asshole!"

You know, this reminds me: Isn't this the way the Brady Bunch episode with Don Drysdale played out?

[Elster88]

The IGT is locked. I blame Cal

[Guest Mets Willets Point]

Elster88 wrote: The IGT is locked. I blame Cal

Just playing the game "the right way."


(Seriously though, why the fuck is the IGT locked?)

[Guest cooby classic]

I hope this thread never dies

Just seeing it makes me smile

[Guest cooby classic]

bump for a grin

[Centerfield]

Let's predict things that Cal Ripken will say tonight:

"Being down 3-0, this game is a 'must-win' for the Cubs."

"The Cubs have to get some runs on the board for them to have a chance. They will want to score early to get them feeling comfortable, but it is also important to score runs late. You don't want to score in the first few innings then go to sleep for the rest of the game."

[MFS62]

"the orange on the Mets uniforms isn't as pretty as the orange on the Orioles uniforms".

Later

Edited October 21, 2015 by Guest

[soupcan]

'3 and 2 with 2 out, let's see if the runners are going...'

[Frayed Knot]

The problem with rookie (and sometimes not so rookie) announcers is that they think saying something is better than saying nothing. It's not.
And that even applies to ones who were smart ballplayers taught at the knee of their baseball lifer father and have been in the game for more than a 1/2 century.

[Fman99]

His words will all be muffled by the sounds of CF's smothercating angus.

[dgwphotography]

Frayed Knot wrote: The problem with rookie (and sometimes not so rookie) announcers is that they think saying something is better than saying nothing. It's not. And that even applies to ones who were smart ballplayers taught at the knee of their baseball lifer father and have been in the game for more than a 1/2 century.

I always get the feeling that Ripken feels the need to add something whenever Ron makes one of his astute points.

[Frayed Knot]

dgwphotography wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: The problem with rookie (and sometimes not so rookie) announcers is that they think saying something is better than saying nothing. It's not. And that even applies to ones who were smart ballplayers taught at the knee of their baseball lifer father and have been in the game for more than a 1/2 century. I always get the feeling that Ripken feels the need to add something whenever Ron makes one of his astute points.

It's why three-man booths (IMO) rarely work, the two color guys get in competition with each other for most air time, best zingers, etc.
Ron & Keith pull it off but that kind of personal and professional familiarity isn't there with thrown-together network "teams", many of which contain guys who are often there more for their name than for their announcing resumes.

[Centerfield]

The other extreme is Joe Garagiola Jr., who, seemingly in awe of his legendary partner, would say nothing.

So much so that when he actually spoke, you forgot that it was not a Vin Scully solo performance.

[seawolf17]

Frayed Knot wrote: It's why three-man booths (IMO) rarely work, the two color guys get in competition with each other for most air time, best zingers, etc. Ron & Keith pull it off but that kind of personal and professional familiarity isn't there with thrown-together network "teams", many of which contain guys who are often there more for their name than for their announcing resumes.

I feel like our guys pull it off because they have a good chunk of history together AND you've got the hitter/pitcher dynamic where they're really not stepping on each other at all.

Also because METS.

[G-Fafif]

Still the best thread title ever.

[Valadius]

I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what Ripken just said.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Valadius wrote: I have ABSOLUTELY no idea what Ripken just said.

Don't feel bad, neither does Cal.

[dinosaur jesus]

Bye, Cal. It's been fun.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Now he can go to CF's house to eat his asshole!

[Centerfield]

You know what we did wrong? We did not bump asshole eating Cal.

I'll say it. I miss Cal.