G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 It appears Chris Young's initial Met season will be his only one -- and truncated. Just been DFA'd.
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 It turns out he really his just a .200 hitter. Fare thee well.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Only thing to see is whether he wakes up in Vegas or ends up further down the road.We're too lefthanded. Maybe needed Brown instead.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 While MdD deserves the promotion, they might have called up Downtown Brown to fill the righty power hitter spot on the big club. Later
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I didn't think they'd do it. And it's about freakin' time.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Why wouldn't they do it? They've already released two veterans outright this season. They have no commitment to him next year. Nothing to stop them if they thought it was the right move.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I didn't hate him.I think his opening day injury really screwed up his stay here from the start: Not that he woulda hit 300 had it not happened, but it was palpable that the issue blitzed his best shot to reclaim his former glory, and that shot at redemption was the best thing he had going for him. To have it interrupted like that, and introduce doubt in him and expose the world to alternatives who might not suck as much, really doomed him from the start.Will say that he appeared to have done his best in spite of those challenges, and even if it wasn't enough, he gave us eight home runs.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I didn't hate him either. Why would I? But he was exactly the kind of bargain basement scrubby long shot leftfielder you'd expect a team like the Mets to pursue after they cut payroll by $10M after already cutting payroll by an historical amount of tens and tens and tens of millions just before that..205 /.283/.346 and on pace for 15 HR's over a full season of play. Good grief! He was a corner outfielder ferchrissakes!
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 And it's shit like this that gives sportswriters a bad name:Davidoff, NYPost: "But really, Mets fans probably would be giddy this morning even if Jenrry Mejia had given up a walk-off, two-run home run to Reid Brignac, instead of getting the banjo-hitting former Yankee to look at a third strike, because of what transpired after the last out." at which point he goes on to talk about the Young DFAYes, Ken, we're such pathetic creatures over here in Metsville that we actually prefer seeing a player essentially fired than we do to see the team win. And, hey, if that loss involves blowing a large lead in the late innings and seeing some of our hoped-for future like the young closer fail miserably, well y'know, at least we got to see someone unconnected to the loss lose their job over it, and isn't that what's really important? In fact, had you told me Chris Young having already taken his last AB as a Met was conditional on the Mets losing the game I would have just rooted for the Sizemore drive to be three feet higher just so I could bask in the warmth of the DFA announcement ten minutes earlier than it eventually occurred.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 I wasn't planning to nit-pick the rest of the Davidoff article--hell, I wasn't even planning on reading the rest of the Davidoff article--but I'm having too much fun to stop now.* "Chris Young is an ex-Met after the team designated the outfielder for assignment, putting last winter�s riskiest and head-scratchingest move to bed after a brutal, four-plus-month lifespan."--- It was far from the riskiest move of last winter: Granderson because of the length of his deal and the $60 million price tag (close to 8x the cost of the CY deal); and Colon because of his age and due the length the deal (double that of Young's) and the width of his body (maybe triple CY).* "Alderson used the words �investment� and �development� when discussing the Mets� moves of this past week � Bobby Abreu preceded Young out the door by four days � and those scream �white flag!� to most of us."--- No, I think those moves actually scream the opposite of 'White Flag' to most of us.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 batmagadanleadoff wrote:.205 /.283/.346 and on pace for 15 HR's over a full season of play. Good grief! He was a corner outfielder ferchrissakes!HEY, DON'T SELL HIM SHORT, BML. He also played an iffy centerfield from time to time.I really thought he had a sneaky-good chance to outpoint Granderson on overall value this year. I was really off on that assessment.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 The Yankees went three years and $45 million with Carlos Beltran, whose knee is made of bubble gum and who is addicted to energy drinks. That was riskier.The Mariners gave 10 years and $240 million to Robinson Cano, who dogs it on the field and established his power baseline at YSLOLIII. That was riskier.Baltimore went four years and $50 million to Ubaldo Jiminez, who, among other things, is a pitcher. That was riskier.If anything, the signing of Chris Young represents behavior that could be characterized as risk-averse. If anything, Mets fans generally want the front office to take more risks. Ask bmfc.Anyhow, Davidoff deserves a pointed letter.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Well, Terry gave him more than enough chances to turn it around, and he never did.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Edgy MD wrote:If anything, the signing of Chris Young represents behavior that could be characterized as risk-averse. If anything, Mets fans generally want the front office to take more risks. Ask bmfc.But even if you want to limit the discussion to NYM signings in this past off-season (as Davidoff probably was implying there) it's still, at worst, the 3rd riskiest move of the winter behind Colon & Granderson.Heck, I'd even characterize it as a lack of risk move seeing as how it cost them only money (and not a ton of it by today's standards) but not players or picks while bringing insurance in CF in case Lagares couldn't hit enough to claim a steady job, and it bought them time to see if Nieuwenhuis and/or MdD and/or Brown would play well enough to push out the weakest link. That said link turned out to be Young himself (as opposed to the other Young or Lagares or, heaven forbid, Granderson) doesn't change the equation even a little.They tried it, it didn't work, they're moving on. But let's not act like his 250-some ABs constituted some franchise-dragging anchor whose departure represents an upside that a game-losing, five-run, 9th inning collapse to your closest rival couldn't possibly dampen.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 I'm glad the Chris Young experiment is over. I wish him well...while the talent may not have been there, I personally don't fault him for a lack of effort.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Rubin's preview declared today to be "den Dekker Day."Let's not get carried away with selling this guy as a savior, here: .184 / .250 / .243 // .493 in 112 plate appearances, with 36 strikeouts. There's a good chance he won't even start today, which will get spun as some sort of betrayal if it comes to pass. There's a lefty going today, too.
Guest Mets Guy in Michigan Guests Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 I agree with Frayed. It was a low-risk, high-reward move. The team did well with Byrd last year, and probably thought Young had similar potential.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 TransMonk wrote:I'm glad the Chris Young experiment is over. I wish him well...while the talent may not have been there, I personally don't fault him for a lack of effort.yeah, seemed like a good guy and by all accounts he is.....just never happened at all for him here
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 He lasted longer than I thought he would...
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Officially cut loose.Interesting that they retained Abreu but cut ties with Young, but maybe CY wanted it that way.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 Yeah, I'm guessing Vegas in August didn't appeal to him.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2014 Author Posted August 27, 2014 With every chance to be September 1977 Dave Kingman. Or, better yet, 2008 Pudge Rodriguez.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted August 27, 2014 Posted August 27, 2014 What I'm afraid of is that he'll become this year's version of Glenallen Hill circa 2000Hill, at the age of 35 that year, was picked up from the Cubs in late July and proceeded to hit 16 HRs for the Yanx in only 132 ABs. He'd go on to hit just one more HR for the remainder of his career (would have only more 9 hits in fact) for the Angels who would release him and end his ML career on June 1st, 2001. I actually thought of the Bronx as a destination for CYoung back when the Mets first released him. Then I remembered that they already had him early in the year only his name was Alfonso Soriano at that point ( RHB, low-BA, occasional power, declining glove and speed skills) but they got tired of him and cut bait back in July so why would they want him back (although, to be fair, this version is a full 7 years younger).
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