CitiField Dimensions

[Mex17]

I think that they can make a few more easy changes. If I did it right, it should be attached below. Let me know your thoughts.

[Frayed Knot]

I'll start with this: What is your intended point on changing it at all?

[Guest d'Kong76]

Oh sure, make it easier for visiting teams to hit HR's!

[nymr83]

fuck that, the park is fine the way it is. its the hitters that are the problem.

[Guest d'Kong76]

I was joking

[Zvon]

I certainly would like to see right center back to where it serves Wrights opp field power. And if I was owner, that would be reason enough.

[Mex17]

Zvon wrote: I certainly would like to see right center back to where it serves Wrights opp field power. And if I was owner, that would be reason enough.

That. And that ridiculous cavernous notch in rightfield taken away so that lefthanded sluggers have half a chance.

But no, me and you are just being silly, aren't we? There is nothing wrong at all!!

[Edgy MD]

Nymr83 wrote: fuck that, the park is fine the way it is. its the hitters that are the problem.

Fuck that, the hitters are fine the way they are. It's the fans that are the problem.

[Mex17]

[Centerfield]

Yeah, I hate those notches in RF. Completely pointless. I'd love to see RF be moved to restore Wright's opposite field power. Seems like d'Arnaud would benefit from that too.

And moving them in would certainly help Granderson.

I heard Ron Darling make a comment that the team was looking forward to the amount of road games coming up, and that the hitters felt like that could give them a chance to get into a groove.

I think that these dimensions are certainly in these hitters' heads.

[Edgy MD]

I mainly don't like the railing fence right on top of the wall on the Party City Deck. It allows an outfielder to reach above the wall, but not over and behind it. So I'd like to see the wall brought in two or three feet. (I imagine the railing fence can't really be pushed back without eliminating seats, but perhaps.)

[Ceetar]

How about we extend the Pepsi Porch out another 5 feet or so.

[Centerfield]

Edgy MD wrote: I mainly don't like the railing fence right on top of the wall on the Party City Deck. It allows an outfielder to reach above the wall, but not over and behind it. So I'd like to see the wall brought in two or three feet. (I imagine the railing fence can't really be pushed back without eliminating seats, but perhaps.)

Agreed on this. Plus you then have to go to replay since the ball bounces back in. I don't know why it is so difficult to just make a wall.

[Edgy MD]

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.

[nymr83]

d'Kong76 wrote: I was joking

Sory, I meant "fuck that" to the initial post

[seawolf17]

Centerfield wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I mainly don't like the railing fence right on top of the wall on the Party City Deck. It allows an outfielder to reach above the wall, but not over and behind it. So I'd like to see the wall brought in two or three feet. (I imagine the railing fence can't really be pushed back without eliminating seats, but perhaps.) Agreed on this. Plus you then have to go to replay since the ball bounces back in. I don't know why it is so difficult to just make a wall.

Because without the railing, people will fall onto the warning track, and the Wilpons can ill afford to kill off what few remaining fans they have that are willing to pay for Party City Party Deck� tickets.

[HahnSolo]

Of all the dimension changing possibilities suggested, moving the left field fence in so they can sell more tickets to the Party City deck seems most likely to me. Not for a 'what's best for baseball' sense, but in a 'let's make a few more bucks' sense.

[Frayed Knot]

I have no problem with the current dimensions - and the idea that changing them in some fashion or another will somehow benefit NYM bats while not simultaneously helping opposing bats and hurting NYM pitchers is, at best, akin to chasing your tail.

[Ceetar]

They should map out where all of the Mets deep fly balls are going to land next year against all of the deep flies by the opponents, and zig-zag the outfield walls appropriately.

[Centerfield]

Frayed Knot wrote: I have no problem with the current dimensions - and the idea that changing them in some fashion or another will somehow benefit NYM bats while not simultaneously helping opposing bats and hurting NYM pitchers is, at best, akin to chasing your tail.

That's never been the idea. The theory is that the dimensions fuck with our hitters more since they play 81 games here, while the opposition simply moves on after 3 games. By changing the dimensions, you unfuck our hitters. Sure, the opposition will get a benefit, too, but the idea is that revised dimensions will benefit our hitters more than they will benefit our competition.

[Ceetar]

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I have no problem with the current dimensions - and the idea that changing them in some fashion or another will somehow benefit NYM bats while not simultaneously helping opposing bats and hurting NYM pitchers is, at best, akin to chasing your tail. That's never been the idea. The theory is that the dimensions fuck with our hitters more since they play 81 games here, while the opposition simply moves on after 3 games. By changing the dimensions, you unfuck our hitters. Sure, the opposition will get a benefit, too, but the idea is that revised dimensions will benefit our hitters more than they will benefit our competition.

and will fuck with our pitchers' heads.

[Frayed Knot]

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I have no problem with the current dimensions - and the idea that changing them in some fashion or another will somehow benefit NYM bats while not simultaneously helping opposing bats and hurting NYM pitchers is, at best, akin to chasing your tail. That's never been the idea. The theory is that the dimensions fuck with our hitters more since they play 81 games here, while the opposition simply moves on after 3 games. By changing the dimensions, you unfuck our hitters. Sure, the opposition will get a benefit, too, but the idea is that revised dimensions will benefit our hitters more than they will benefit our competition.

I've heard all that but just don't buy it.
I was all for the changes they already made; the RF fence was quirky for quirk's sake and was too tricked out by about half, and the LF fence was simply ridiculous; make it high or make it far but don't make it both.
But now, while still favoring pitching, it's hardly 'extreme' by any definition and I don't think moving this or that by a few feet one way or the other is going to affect much of anything. And if the dimensions are supposedly 'fucking with guys heads' for five years now I think they've got bigger problems than a fence tweak will solve.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree; the original dimensions were absurd and I'm glad they added that blue fence. I don't think further adjustments are necessary.

Has anyone tracked how many homers, both by the Mets and by visitors, have gone over the blue fence but would not have been home runs in 2009?

[Zvon]

I mainly don't like the railing fence right on top of the wall on the Party City Deck. It allows an outfielder to reach above the wall, but not over and behind it. So I'd like to see the wall brought in two or three feet. (I imagine the railing fence can't really be pushed back without eliminating seats, but perhaps.)

This is a good point that never occurred to me. I hate that the rails there.

They should map out where all of the Mets deep fly balls are going to land next year against all of the deep flies by the opponents, and zig-zag the outfield walls appropriately.

Classic

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ceetar wrote: They should map out where all of the Mets deep fly balls are going to land next year against all of the deep flies by the opponents, and zig-zag the outfield walls appropriately.

Jeffymandering.

[Edgy MD]

Well, a few years ago, maybe. Now it would be Terrymandering.

[Edgy MD]

This seems like a meaningful difference.

[TransMonk]

Harper, Freeman, Heyward, Jones, Howard must be salivating. Maybe LaRoche, too.

[Vic Sage]

now all we need is another LHed power hitter to take advantage of it, and a few effective LHPs to neutralize its effect.

[Edgy MD]

They'll be shopping for another hitter or two, certainly, but I think they'll be pretty happy if it serves Granderson and Wright, and maybe Duda and Nieuwenhuis a little also. Not a single opposite field homer from Wright in 2014.

Lefthanded pitchers? Well, this might make them 10% more likely to trade Gee over Niese.