Re-Sign Reyes NOW!!!!

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Marlins. They would do something like this.

[seawolf17]

He is dead to me now.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

So much for the Mets getting a chance to match or beat the offer.

[willpie]

Now I get to find out what it's like to hate Jose Jose Jose Jose.

[Gwreck]

seawolf17 wrote: He is dead to me now.

The problem is the Mets, not Reyes.

Tell us honestly that it's going to be a 3-5 year rebuilding process and price the tickets accordingly.

But each year, telling us that "they're not punting anything" and pricing the tickets like the Red Sox and Yankees is offensive. If I can buy a ticket for $35 in the lower seating bowl, I'm not going to be so picky about these things. The product they put on the field and the price they charge is totally incongruous.

[batmagadanleadoff]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: So much for the Mets getting a chance to match or beat the offer.

You think the Mets didn't have a chance? They were never, ever, in it to begin with.

The Daily News is reporting that the Reyes-Fish deal is official.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2011/12/jose-reyes-leaves-ny-mets-agrees-to-deal-with-miami-marlins

[batmagadanleadoff]

6 years/$106M, 6 years/$102M depends on the source.

Edited December 4, 2011 by Guest

[seawolf17]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: So much for the Mets getting a chance to match or beat the offer.

They had all effing year. Screw the Wilpons.

[batmagadanleadoff]

seawolf17 wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: So much for the Mets getting a chance to match or beat the offer. They had all effing year. Screw the Wilpons.

Megdal's piece is dead on. The Wilpons have no intention of spending that kind of scratch on any player; they're in it to survive. All of a sudden, the truth isn't a defense anymore; now Megdal gets criticized for criticizing the Wilpons even when he's dead right.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I've got no words right now, only sounds and gestures.

[Guest themetfairy]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I've got no words right now, only sounds and gestures.

This

[batmagadanleadoff]

This might turn out to be a good thing for the Mets. You never know. I mean, with hindsight, letting Strawberry leave after the '90 season turned out OK. So there's that.

[nymr83]

If Reyes had gotten away as a baseball decision ("he's always hurt, so we wont go past 4 years") it would be another story, but lets face it, this was all about Freddie Coupon who lost his money to Uncle Bernie and wants to take ours at the same ridiculous prices he charged when he was spending twice as much on the product on the field.

The Mets, from everything I've seen, never made a real offer... go fuck yourself Wilpom, I wont be at Citifield next year. At all.

[Vic Sage]

if you think about for a second, though, we could probably see where the market is right now. All the teams in that article (including the Mets) would take Reyes at 5 years / $15m; lets assume that's the floor. Would any take him at 7 years / $20m (i.e., "Crawford money")? Unlikely, but not impossible. It only takes 1 buyer. But lets assume thats the top end. a mid-point is probably 6 years / $17.5m, which would scare off some teams, but probably not all. You could even add an option/buy out provision to bring the total package up a bit, plus incentive clauses that could all back into a "crawford" type deal, if Reyes was healthy and productive. Could the Mets do this? and should they? I don't know if they CAN, but if that's the market, i'd reluctantly agree they should. But at 7yrs+/$20m+ straight up, i'd understand if Sandy passed

the deal is right around the 6yr/$17.5m deal i surmised it'd be about a month ago. sorry to see we didn't have the money to go in on it, at that price, but likely a Mets counter-offer in that range would've just driven the final deal higher. And since it now seems clear the Mets were never seriously going to go in on any deal even remotely in this range, the point is moot.

what a surprise that Jose's obvious affection for his home in the Long Island area didn't persuade him to take a lesser deal from the Metropolitans. shocked. I'm shocked, i tell you.

so long, Jose, and thanks for all the fish.

Time to change the laundry. Ruben Tejada, c'mon down!

[metsmarathon]

i console myself with this tought.

if the marlins are going to go after pujols too, then it's likely that no matter the wilpon's financial situation, they would have been likely able to push the contract eventually to where we sandy would not want it to go. so maybe we never had a chance to begin with.

it is little, bitter solace.

fuck the mets. i'll probably change my mind come april, but really. fuck the mets.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

I feel awful. I think I'm done.

[G-Fafif]

The Florida Marlins are now the Miami Marlins. The New York Mets are now the Florida Marlins.

[ashie62]

6 for 106

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/346148/report-marlins-sign-reyes-for-6-years-$106m

[ashie62]

Alderson sucks moosecock

[bmfc1]

Nymr83 wrote: If Reyes had gotten away as a baseball decision ("he's always hurt, so we wont go past 4 years") it would be another story, but lets face it, this was all about Freddie Coupon who lost his money to Uncle Bernie and wants to take ours at the same ridiculous prices he charged when he was spending twice as much on the product on the field. The Mets, from everything I've seen, never made a real offer... go fuck yourself Wilpom, I wont be at Citifield next year. At all.

Yes. They never even made an offer. Not even a mediocre offer to appease us. Didn't even try to keep one of the most popular players in team history. One of the best players in baseball. The Wilpons can go F themselves.

[dgwphotography]

metsmarathon wrote: i console myself with this tought. if the marlins are going to go after pujols too, then it's likely that no matter the wilpon's financial situation, they would have been likely able to push the contract eventually to where we sandy would not want it to go. so maybe we never had a chance to begin with.

If the Marlins go after Pujols, that means the Mets really get screwed, getting only a fourth round pick in addition to the sandwich pick...

metsmarathon wrote: fuck the mets. i'll probably change my mind come april, but really. fuck the mets.

This.

This again.

I'm numb to it. My issue isn't with Alderson, because he is obviously dealing with a shitty hand. This is squarely on the Wilponzis - If they think I'm going to pay large market prices for a payroll that doesn't match that, they're kissing themselves...

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, I can't blame Alderson for this one.

Also, I knew he wouldn't get $20 million per year, but he did come pretty close.

And finally, as someone said above, this may turn out to be similar to Darryl Strawberry's loss. It's entirely possible that Jose will only get to 130 games in one or two of his seasons in Miami and his contract will be a bigger albatross than Jason Bay's.

Oh well. I'm very sorry to see him go, but I've been through this before and I've survived.

[bmfc1]

Sandy said that the Mets lost $70 million last season. How is this possible? You own a) a baseball team in New York City. This isn't a baseball team in Paris or a Roller Derby team in New York. This is New York baseball! And they own a television network that shows the games. How incompetent are the Wilpons?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I got no issue with Jose Jose taking the $$, definitely would be concerned about what that deal would mean down the road, and didn't need this situation to convince me the Wilpons are moronic cowards with big financial problems.

But, I'm interested to see how we move on from this.

[Edgy MD]

Not hard for me to see how they lost money. They were over-leveraged with a poorly performing team in a lousy economy with a frustrated fan base. That the contracts were signed in a good economy only exacerbates that.

The Marlins are now in the position the Mets were in three years ago --- flush from an influx of civic largess and spending money like a drunken sailor. Hopefully, it turns out the same or worse for them.

[Chad ochoseis]

G-Fafif wrote: The Florida Marlins are now the Miami Marlins. The New York Mets are now the Florida Marlins.

On the bright side, the Miami Marlins are now the New York Mets. I would have liked Jose to be a career Met, but 6 years @ 17-18 million is positively Omaresque.

[metirish]

I have no ill will towards Reyes, not even being in the frame is maddening.

http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111204&content_id=26090230&vkey=news_mia&c_id=mia

of course Hanley at 3rd is no sure thing is it?

[G-Fafif]

In the free agent megastar scheme of things, neither crazy money nor insane years. Certainly pushing it, though. If Mets were capable of going there, I'd be upset they didn't. Instead I'm upset they are incapable of going there for one of their own.

Five for 80 sounded quite reasonable and generous, whether the Mets ever offered it or not. But once a player's on the open market, anything can happen. It happened big for Jose.

[metirish]

[G-Fafif]

Between Los Mets and the BP jerseys, Jose wore blue tops in a game exactly three times, yet those pictures keep popping up in coverage of this. Very photogenic.