Chris Young... no, the other one

[A Boy Named Seo]

He gets his own thread, people. Rumor mill is hot hot hawt that he might become a New York Met. Got my west coast biased on for sure, but I was real fond of this guy as a Padre.

1-year incentive-laden deal? How much lettuce? I don't know. 4 starts at the end of the year. 4 very good ones, by the looks of things.

Would he be one of the 5 tallest Mets? Top 3? I would bet yes.

[bmfc1]

6'10"--gotta be the tallest, right?

[Frayed Knot]

This is the one who played hoops at Princeton.

32 y/o in May. The <100 IP over the last two years combined and the <200 over the last three are definite problems - but the stuff before that was pretty good.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/y/youngch03.shtml

[seawolf17]

Eric Hillman was 6'10" or 6'11".

I'll repeat what I said in the other thread. One year, between Maine's $2.5 million and Vazquez's $7 million would be perfect.

[Gwreck]

Edit:

Hillman was 6'10." I must've been confusing him with 6' 9" Terry Bross.

Edited November 29, 2010 by Guest

[A Boy Named Seo]

David West might be a PF on the (t)all-Mets team.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Mike Pelfrey: shrimp.

[Benjamin Grimm]

From 2005: Short Mets Tall Mets Big Mets Small Mets

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

He's a little like John Maine, right down to the attractive whiff numbers and multiple shoulder woes. Both were pretty good in 2007. I would guess Young could come cheaper at this point.

[metirish]

Jeff D'Amico was surely 6'10 and more.

Tweets are saying Young would be a perfect fit for CF......but can he still pitch?

[Fman99]

I like it. Change of venue, incentive laden, big park, etc. He's got good stuff, better than Maine from a raw talent perspective I'd venture.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

I'd prefer the Mets to take a chance on Young rather than Maine. I think Young was the better pitcher of the two prior to their injuries.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Any disappointment that the first thing Sandy do is go out and recruit someone from the folders he brought with him from San Diego?

I mean, Omar looked disproportionately to former Expos and occasionally old Ranger guys and Steve Phillips signed his old minor-league roommate (for Pete's sake). Both were derided as short-sighted for this.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: He's a little like John Maine, right down to the attractive whiff numbers and multiple shoulder woes. Both were pretty good in 2007. I would guess Young could come cheaper at this point.

Last clocked throwing 85-86 too.

[MFS62]

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: He's a little like John Maine, right down to the attractive whiff numbers and multiple shoulder woes. Both were pretty good in 2007. I would guess Young could come cheaper at this point. Last clocked throwing 85-86 too.

I'm not too concerned with fastball speed as long as the pitcher can change speeds and has decent command. I don't think Rick Reed, Bobby (righty)Jones or Steve Traschell consistently touched 90 MPH (if at all). But they were pretty serviceable or better starters. Worth an incentive laden contract, IMO. Maybe he can fool 'em until Santana returns or until Mejia or Gee is ready to step into the rotation full time.
If his velocity improves, even better.

Later

[Valadius]

As long as they're not throwing an 80 mph fastball with no movement like Brian Lawrence, I'm cool.

[metirish]

Edgy DC wrote: Any disappointment that the first thing Sandy do is go out and recruit someone from the folders he brought with him from San Diego? I mean, Omar looked disproportionately to former Expos and occasionally old Ranger guys and Steve Phillips signed his old minor-league roommate (for Pete's sake). Both were derided as short-sighted for this.

Oh yeah , it's like GM 101 at times.....

[Guest Edgy DC]

To be fair, I'm not so sure it's a bad thing. If you know anything about undervalued assets, you know about the ones your last organizaiton wasn't valuing --- or in a position to give proper value to.

The problem is when it persists over a while and you're making deals based on a crushie-wushie you got on a guy years before and not giving proper weight to later information.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm confused by the subject line here. Is there a more famous Chris Young that I don't know about? (I'll have to check Wikipedia, I guess.) I assume you're not talking about the Christine Young who works for the same company I do.

[Centerfield]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm confused by the subject line here. Is there a more famous Chris Young that I don't know about? (I'll have to check Wikipedia, I guess.) I assume you're not talking about the Christine Young who works for the same company I do.

OMG! YOU WORK WITH HER?

[seawolf17]

The other Chris Young is an outfielder for the Diamondbacks.

[metsmarathon]

it can't be long until there's a steve smith playing in the major leagues, can it? those guys are everywhere!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Just looked. I can't believe there's never been a Steve Smith in the majors.

Diminshed velocity or no, the problem with Chris Young isn't that he's been getting hit more-- his BABIP and HR rates have remained low or dropped even as he's gotten less effective. To paraphrase a famous campaign manager/praying mantis-human, It's the walks, stupid.

He was a bit better than Maine when he was good... and for longer, too-- he put up sub-4 ERAs and 8+ K/9 for 3 straight seasons (with FIPs hovering around the mid-3-to-mid-4 range), and made thirty starts in each.

[Vic Sage]

If we're going to take a flyer on a guy who hasn't pitched a full season in 4 years, why not a Rich Harden, with higher upside? That way, if you get lucky, you get REALLY lucky?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Does Harden really have much higher upside? He strikes out a few more batters, but he also walks more... and has an even longer, more varied injury history than Big Old Nassau.

[Ceetar]

It's not like they're equal 'gutshot' guys. closer evaluation may suggest Young has a better shot of contributing anything.

[Guest Edgy DC]

So, is this courtship alive or dead?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Young has supposedly been offered a modest deal from the Mets, but for over a milliion guaranteed.

Several sources are repeating it, but it appears Buster Olney is the lone parent source.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Young has supposedly been offered a modest deal from the Mets, but for over a milliion guaranteed. Several sources are repeating it, but it appears Buster Olney is the lone parent source.

I hear rumblings that they didn't in fact offer him a contract. Which for all I know, means he rejected it.

[Fman99]

Whither goest thou, Chris Young?

According to sawed-off human Buster Olney, recently...

ESPN MFY loving midget wrote: Chris Young is getting closer to making a decision on where he will pitch in 2011; the Mets, as we know, are interested, and the Nats may be in the running, as well. It's expected that he'll probably sign for a base salary for something in the range of more than $1 million, plus incentives of something in the range of $3 million.

Upside on Young I think is not insignificantly higher than it is on Capuano, Buchholz and the 2010 leftovers in the back of the fridge.