You're Entering A World of Pain (2009 Injuries)

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

giving beltran the opportunity to play this season gives the team the chance to find out if they might still have a centerfielder for next year. if he can run and cover ground free enough of difficulty and pain, then maybe they don't need to make "new centerfielder" or "backup outfielder good enough to start" a top priority for next year.[/quote:3am4rzsd]

A fair point, and I'll concede it. That said, I think "backup outfielder good enough to start (for stretches)" is a priority, anyway (Pagan, with a slight brain adjustment, fits the bill decently).

[metirish]

Can't win?

Mets make Wright decision, but questions linger

What is it about the Mets that they can end the day having done the right thing, and yet we still shake our heads at how they got there? Help me out here, folks. Does any other company/entity/person possess such a proclivity? E-mail me at kdavidoff@newsday.com. We'll turn it into a blog post. Anyway, David Wright was placed on the disabled list Sunday, and Mets fans should exhale in relief. There won't be a repeat of last year's Ryan Church fiasco. Nevertheless, while their final answer proved correct, the Mets' actions in the roughly 23 hours from Wright's beaning to his shelving raised more questions. Namely: 1. What took them so long? Why did they leave themselves two men short - Alex Cora, with an ailing right thumb, was unavailable - for yesterday's game? 2. Why in the world did they send a wildly uninformed Jerry Manuel to address this issue before the game? 3. What was up with Omar Minaya's postgame news conference, in which he repeatedly stressed that Wright wanted to play but that the paternal Mets insisted that their face of the franchise join fellow Core members Carlos Beltran, Carlos Delgado and Jose Reyes on the DL? Sorry to be such a buzz kill, especially on a day when the Mets beat the contending Giants, 3-2, in a smooth game at Citi Field. Really, though, the Mets didn't inspire much confidence on a day when such a feat should've been a slam dunk. The day began with Manuel holding his traditional pregame news conference and sounding as educated on concussions as Homer Simpson does on parenting.

I did find the Minaya conference quite funny.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Yah, agreed. This guy at the Post goes so far as to say the "rushed to judgment" putting him on the DL.

Yeesh.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

The way this has dragged Church's situation-- and, by entension, the player himself-- into a kind of second-stage spotlight is perhaps the oddest tangent of this story. (Witness, as well, Manuel's-- unintentional?-- cheap shot at the departed.)

From Manuel at yesterday's pregame:

"David is a different animal, so to speak," Manuel said. "And how he is made up is a little different than, say, Ryan Church, in my opinion. And that's not to say one is better than the other. But they're different... ... With Church, it was, 'I want to play, but,' " the manager said. "It was, 'I want to play, but I'm queasy.' It was just always stuff coming out of left field."

The Snooze's John Harperspeculates:

Maybe that's why he felt the need to push Church, going all the way back to spring training when he declared young Murphy already a better hitter and said he didn't think Church's post-concussion problems were a factor in his late-season woes at the plate.

From Wallace Matthews (yeah, I know) yesterday:

The Mets played fast and loose with Church's health and not only got away with it but capitalized on it when they traded him for Francoeur, who has been a good addition.

From an Adam Rubin joint todayquoting Church hisself:

He's going to need to rest," said Church, who twice suffered concussions last year while with the Mets. "I don't know how bad it was, but a concussion is a concussion. You need time. Don't try to be a hero. Don't let anyone make you play.

[metirish]

The Manuel jab was classless IMO.....no class Jerry , no class.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Jerry needs a little blunt head trauma to see how he likes it.



Seriously, though, we're talking about brain injury. Come on, Jerry.

[MFS62]

Seems like the Mets are damned if they do (Put a guy on the DL immediately) or damned of they don't (they delay).
It sells newspapers, I guess.

Later

[Frayed Knot]

Yah, agreed. This guy at the Post goes so far as to say the "rushed to judgment" putting him on the DL.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mike Piazza was beaned by Roger Clemens, and suffered his concussion, on July 8, 2000. He was back in the Mets starting lineup, and behind the plate, on July 13. He missed four days, and three of them were taken up by the All-Star break.

I don't know how Piazza's concussion compares to Wright's (or to Church's) but this talk of David maybe being out for the season does seem a little extreme.

[Frayed Knot]

And Jon Matlack missed one start after getting hit with a liner that had some who saw it thinking could be fatal.
And that's the problem with concussions or other head injuries, no two are alike so there's no reason to treat them that way. Maybe Wright needs this or maybe he doesn't, I just get the feeling that the decision was made for a variety of reasons only some of which are medical just so they can shield themselves from comments of those who's medical knowledge stems from watching reruns of ER & House.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Yah, agreed. This guy at the Post goes so far as to say the "rushed to judgment" putting him on the DL.

[nymr83]

this is absurd. if they don't DL him everyone would be cursing them out and invoking the Church incident as proof the Mets don't kbow how to handle a concussion.

the mets want to play it safe with their star player's HEAD INJURY in an already lost season? fine by me.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree with them being cautious, and since they're not in a pennant race, the DL thing makes sense. (It prevents Jerry from trying to leverage Wright's "toughness.")

I do expect that David will resume playing shortly after his DL time runs out.

[seawolf17]

btw, Dodger pitcher Kuroda got conked with a line-drive the same day and was also held overnight in a hospital for observation. He was medically cleared to be put on a plane the next day.[/quote:1p1b3qe0]
Maybe Fred could use the Dodgers' doctors!

[Benjamin Grimm]

He is. But it's the Brooklyn Dodgers doctors he's using, and they're all in their 90's and haven't been keeping up with medical developments.

[metsmarathon]

From Wallace Matthews (yeah, I know) yesterday:

The Mets played fast and loose with Church's health and not only got away with it but capitalized on it when they traded him for Francoeur, who has been a good addition.

[Benjamin Grimm]

They capitalized on his eventual recovery, but certainly not on his injury.

[Farmer Ted]

David's vision must still be blurry. No other explanation for wearing this shirt.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/08/18/alg_wright-early.jpg

Still wearing that Flavor Flav watch, too.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Yikes. It should be in his contract that he has to wear the home pinstripes at all times.

Shower, sexy time, doesn't matter. Always.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

From Wallace Matthews (yeah, I know) yesterday:

The Mets played fast and loose with Church's health and not only got away with it but capitalized on it when they traded him for Francoeur, who has been a good addition.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

David's vision must still be blurry. No other explanation for wearing this shirt.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/08/18/alg_wright-early.jpg

Still wearing that Flavor Flav watch, too.

[Frayed Knot]

btw, Dodger pitcher Kuroda got conked with a line-drive the same day and was also held overnight in a hospital for observation. He was medically cleared to be put on a plane the next day.[/quote:1cp0nkey]
Maybe Fred could use the Dodgers' doctors![/quote:1cp0nkey]

And Texas's Ian Kinsler got beaned the same day too (actually looked worse than Wright's initially) but he never even left the game.

Larger point being that all head injuries aren't the same so treating one based solely on the result of another is stupid.

[bmfc1]

Cora: done for the season.

Rubin: Alex Cora has decided to have season-ending surgeries to repair torn ligaments in both thumbs. He'll have the right thumb repaired first by team doctor Andrew Weiland, then wait five weeks and have the left thumb repaired.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Any word on when he'll be able to resume hitchhiking?

[Frayed Knot]

Are you kidding? Immediately man!!!
Thumbs in large casts will be visible from like a mile away!!




Might need help getting the door open though.

[nymr83]

i prefer doors that can be kicked anyway, this way i dont have to get other people's germs when i touch them.

[metsmarathon]

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gold foil. rhinestones. holy fuck, man. $119 gets you a whole lot of ugly!

if this was 10 years ago, he's be dying his hair blonde and holding awkward press conferences assuring us of his straightness.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

"It's like getting beaned in the head with a 94 mph fastball of fashion."

[Benjamin Grimm]

I have to say, it goes nicely with the bright-yellow watch band.

I wonder why a guy who makes millions per year has to dress himself in Salvation Army hand-me-downs.

[metirish]

"oh sweetheart a 97mph fastball to the coconut is the least he deserves for this fashion faux pas"