May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

[A Boy Named Seo]

Mets officially in on him, along with some other bozos, per MLBTR per MLB per Morosi.



https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/mets-red-sox-diamondbacks-royals-interested-in-lucas-giolito.htmlhttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/mets-red-sox-diamondbacks-royals-interested-in-lucas-giolito.html



He was absolutely awful last year but I want him bigly. What sez you?

[Fman99]

Another guy with a 2022 fork sticking out of his back. I guess him and Severino can sit together on the plane.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Pretty durable.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mike Puma reporting today that the Mets are showing strong interest in Giolito.

Mike Puma wrote: The Mets are showing strong interest in the right-hander, whose top selling point might be his ability to consume innings. Giolito, pitched 184 ¹/₃ innings last season — divided among the White Sox, Angels and Guardians — marking the fourth time since 2018 he surpassed 170 in a season. He finished with 204 strikeouts last season, which ranked sixth in the American League. Giolito had a solid first half with the White Sox last season, but beginning in mid-July went through a divorce and was later traded twice, factors that may have contributed to his shaky numbers after the All-Star break. Overall, he finished 8-15 with a 4.88 ERA in 33 starts and his 41 homers allowed led the AL. But the fact he is only 29 and received Cy Young award votes as recently as 2021 are positives for Giolito, who has also been linked to the Dodgers and Red Sox, among others, this winter.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/sports/mets-have-strong-interest-in-lucas-giolito-as-they-mull-free-agency-options/https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/sports/mets-have-strong-interest-in-lucas-giolito-as-they-mull-free-agency-options/

[A Boy Named Seo]

He's been bad but he seems to fit the current bill:



1) cheap(er) compared to top tier guys

2) short-term deal pretty damn likely

3) could surprise everyone and be good again

bonus stuff

4) not over 30

5) durable



I vote yes.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd be okay with it too.

[nymr83]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: He's been bad but he seems to fit the current bill: 1) cheap(er) compared to top tier guys 2) short-term deal pretty damn likely 3) could surprise everyone and be good again bonus stuff 4) not over 30 5) durable I vote yes.

Other than #4 these seem like Fred Wilpon criteria.

[MFS62]

I'll sign up for a first half Lucas, please.

But those 41 HR scare me a bit.



Later

[A Boy Named Seo]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: He's been bad but he seems to fit the current bill: 1) cheap(er) compared to top tier guys 2) short-term deal pretty damn likely 3) could surprise everyone and be good again bonus stuff 4) not over 30 5) durable I vote yes. Other than #4 these seem like Fred Wilpon criteria.

No one would argue the Mets plan worked last year, but they paid $100MM in luxury taxes for trying. It's nothing like Wilpon.

[Lefty Specialist]

Only if it's one year and heavy on incentives.



I'm reminded of that scene in Animal House where they're looking at slides of potential pledges; everyones moaning and groaning as the pictures come up, but somebody in back pipes up, "We need the dudes, man."



Right now we need the dudes. They have a 3-man starting staff at present.

[Edgy MD]

I think it was "We need the dues," said in the response to the consideration of pledge Larry "Pinto" Kruger."



I feel like I can confidently predict Giolito giving the team (whatever team he signs with) one third of a season of excellence, one third of utter averageness, and one third of utter nothingness — not necessarily in that order.



He's not that deep into his career, and he started 33 games last year, but man, he brought almost nothing the second half.

[ashie62]

Giolito reminds me of Vince Velasquez



Hard thrower gopher thrower



They need pitchers and dues so have at it. Better than Flounder going to the hill

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mike Puma reporting today that the Mets are showing strong interest in Giolito.

I have strong interest in Kate Beckinsale. But that doesn't mean I'll get her.

Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

You'd have a better chance if you were a billionaire.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Signs with the Red Sox, 2/38.5 Passan 1st

[Centerfield]

Lots of money. Two year deal. Not very good. Im ok to take a pass.



But we'll need some pitching sooner or later.

[MFS62]

I see a gopher grower, who gave up 41 HR last year, signing to pitch half his games in Fenway Park.

And I chuckle.



Later

[smg58]

Two years for about half that and maybe.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Not feeling too upset coming in 2nd for that dude at that rate. On to the next.

[ashie62]

In a sense the Red Sox traded Chris Sale for Lucas Giolito



Giolito reminds me of Jerad Eichoff, tee time!

[metirish]

Damn

[A Boy Named Seo]

That's the BoSox calling Scott Boras

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

They were already said to be in on Montgomery.



That leaves us with Snell.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Or with Megill or Lucchesi.



Or Hamel or Vasil or Scott. I'm really hoping one of those three turns out to be like Jacob deGrom in 2015. I think this year's Mets rotation needs a fabulous surprise.

[A Boy Named Seo]

I predict a Rich Hill reunion.

[Frayed Knot]

This sounds like he may never throw a pitch for the Sawx

It's a two year deal where the second is a player option.

[metsmarathon]

i mean, he'd be an absolute dunce to opt out if he missed the whole year, right?

[Frayed Knot]

Unless there's some kind of clause involved -- 'You must pitch at least 40 innings in order to use your opt-in' -- it's gotta be

an automatic from Giolito's pov, especially since he likely won't know at the end of '24 whether or not the '25 season will

be a total loss or just a partial one.