Mets hire Mendoza

[metirish]

[metirish]

We have a new manager, what do we know about him?

[G-Fafif]

Not the Carlos Mendoza who played for the 1997 Mets.

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Edited November 6, 2023 by Guest

[Edgy MD]

I realize that having a president of baseball operations makes having a general manager something less than it's usual necessary element in day-to-day operations, but it still feels kind of freaky to hire a manager while the gm chair is still vacant.

[metirish]

What's the line on him??

[Benjamin Grimm]

Actually, it's this guy: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=mendoz001carhttps://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=mendoz001car

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Yankee coach for last several years, been getting manager interviews for last two years.



I'm personally glad we didn;t hire Counsell who's such a wisconnsin guy he'd only be here for the $$



Personally I think we'd be just as well off with Buck.

[kcmets]

Briefly a Met:

kcmets Nov 06 2023 12:36 PM Re: Mets hire Mendoza

It's on the MLB Channel scrolly bar (pending a physical)....

ashie62 Nov 06 2023 12:38 PM Re: Mets hire Mendoza

Never heard of him.

Marshmallowmilkshake Nov 06 2023 12:45 PM Re: Mets hire Mendoza

=MFS62 post_id=140581 time=1699296162 user_id=60] From the same place we got Showalter (after a few stops)and Randolph. Because of that winning tradition I guess. If you can make it there You can make it anywhere It's up to you New York New York Later

And Stengel!

[kcmets]

It's on the MLB Channel scrolly bar (pending a physical)....

[ashie62]

Never heard of him.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

=MFS62 post_id=140581 time=1699296162 user_id=60]
From the same place we got Showalter (after a few stops)and Randolph.

Because of that winning tradition I guess.



If you can make it there

You can make it anywhere

It's up to you

New York New York





Later

[Lefty Specialist]

Seems like he was well liked within the Yankme organization. Speaks Spanish, so there's that.



Sounds like Steans wants a manager he can control, especially since they haven't hired a GM yet. Hope he keeps Cora as the third base coach. The rest can go, Hefner included.

[roger_that]

Awful funny way to spell "Beltran," if you ask me.

[stevejrogers]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=140595 time=1699299944 user_id=119]
=MFS62 post_id=140581 time=1699296162 user_id=60]
From the same place we got Showalter (after a few stops)and Randolph.

Because of that winning tradition I guess.



If you can make it there

You can make it anywhere

It's up to you

New York New York





Later

[Edgy MD]

I wouldn't make too much of those Berra/Green/Stengel/etc. parallels, but Mendoza is more analogous to Willie Randolph, in that he previously had a tenure with the Yankees as a base coach and a bench coach, but not as a big-league manager.



Unike Randolph, though, he has had a meaningful amount of minor-league managerial experience.

[TransMonk]

=Gwreck post_id=140582 time=1699296357 user_id=56]
Counsell to the Cubs.

[Edgy MD]

Cubs fans are unique in that, instead of having a singular and all-consuming arch rivalry, they actually viscerally hate three teams, don't they?

[metirish]

Edgy MD wrote: Cubs fans are unique in that, instead of having a singular and all-consuming arch rivalry, they actually viscerally hate three teams, don't they?

White Sox

Cardinals



And Brewers or Pittsburgh?

[nymr83]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Yankee coach for last several years, been getting manager interviews for last two years. I'm personally glad we didn;t hire Counsell who's such a wisconnsin guy he'd only be here for the $$ Personally I think we'd be just as well off with Buck. Seriously, I would have stuck with Buck

Yup.

[nymr83]

Edgy MD wrote: Cubs fans are unique in that, instead of having a singular and all-consuming arch rivalry, they actually viscerally hate three teams, don't they?

Why is that unique? I hate the Braves, Phillies, and Nationals. I'm sure older Mets fans hate the Cardinals too

[Edgy MD]

I don't know. It just seems the Cubs fans have some deliriously nasty things to express about the Cards and Brewers, even if the day's opponents are the Angels or Rockies or something.

[Frayed Knot]

$8mil/yr x 5 years for Counsell

No other Mgr is the game is making as much as $5/per

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: $8mil/yr x 5 years for Counsell No other Mgr is the game is making as much as $5/per

He must have walked across Lake Michigan to sign his contract.



The Cubs fans really hate the Cardinals, but tend to ignore the animus the White Sox fans have for them. They look down on them. (from a long time friend who loves his Chisox as much as we love the Mets)



Later

[nymr83]

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know. It just seems the Cubs fans have some deliriously nasty things to express about the Cards and Brewers, even if the day's opponents are the Angels or Rockies or something.

I distinctly remember leaving the Todd Pratt homerun game down the giant old ramps at Shea, the crowd was chanting "Yankees Suck" - that's not a unique feature of the Cubs either

[Edgy MD]

Sure, I just mean to suggest that they seem to have more such targets. I could be wrong.

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[Marshmallowmilkshake]

The Cubs' statement doesn't make a lot of sense. If all this is true .... then why did they fire him? I know they have to say nice things. But usually you throw a line in there with "we needed to go in a different direction.." or something.

Here is the full statement from Cubs President of Baseball Operations Jed Hoyer: “Today we made the difficult decision to dismiss David Ross as our Major League manager. On behalf of the Cubs organization, we express our deep gratitude for David's contributions to our club, both on and off the field. First as a player and then as a manager, David continually showcased his ability to lead. David's legacy will be felt in Chicago for generations and his impact to our organization will stack up with the legends that came before him.”

[metirish]

A contradictory column from Jon

[metirish]

From The Athletic



With a background in player development over several years with the Yankees, Mendoza carries a strong reputation in the industry for being detail-oriented with an advanced ability to make decisions using evidence. He's also expected to add a veteran presence to the dugout as his bench coach, according to a source. As of Monday night, the holdovers from Showalter's coaching staff were unsure of their status.



Curious to see makeup of his staff

[Fman99]

Oh good a manager with no MLB managing experience. That won't be a massive clusterfuck like the last two guys were