If deGrom still deserves his own thread, well then this is it.

[TransMonk]

Rumblings on Twitter are that he's headed for Tommy John surgery.

[Lefty Specialist]

As the kids say, lol.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Wow.

[batmagadanleadoff]

There's no way deGrom's Ranger contract was insurable, I don't think. The Rangers are gonna pretty much eat deGrom's contract.

[metirish]

Damn

[ashie62]

Wow. Everything the Texas Rangers touch turns to dust

[cal sharpie]

So, probably not pitching til 2025.

[metirish]

[Lefty Specialist]

For the past three years he's had different kinds of weird soreness with murky explanations. He was probably pitching on the edge the whole time and not being truthful about it. You can't throw 100 pitches a start as hard as he threw them for as long as he threw them without something happening.



Eppler and Cohen made the right call here.

[whippoorwill]

Geez. I rel eased him from my fantasy team before they even announced this.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Lefty Specialist wrote: As the kids say, lol.

Seriously?

[kcmets]

Phwam, Texas-style. They like things big down there!

[vtmet7]

I'm surprised that the title of the thread hasn't changed to : "Memories of deGrom's ulnar collateral ligament"

[Benjamin Grimm]

Predicted tabloid headline:



deJA VU!

[ashie62]

The Texas Rangers did not, could not insure the contract?



Source is the local abc sports guy

[batmagadanleadoff]

=ashie62 post_id=127767 time=1686090614 user_id=90]
The Texas Rangers did not, could not insure the contract?



Source is the local abc sports guy

[Frayed Knot]

Still not as bad a contract as the extension Strasburg signed with the Nats in the winter of '19/'20*

His deal was less on a per/year basis but also longer and, though it's not yet official, his career is likely over.







*$245 mil, he'spitched 31 innings and will probably throw no more

Edited June 6, 2023 by Guest

[batmagadanleadoff]

The Rangers may indeed have been able to insure deGrom but I cant read the article because of the paywall.



https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/03/sports/injury-protection-included-jacob-degroms-big-money-deal-with-texas/https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/03/sports/injury-protection-included-jacob-degroms-big-money-deal-with-texas/

[batmagadanleadoff]

The Rangers may indeed have been able to insure deGrom but I cant read the article because of the paywall. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/03/sports/injury-protection-included-jacob-degroms-big-money-deal-with-texas/https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/03/sports/injury-protection-included-jacob-degroms-big-money-deal-with-texas/

This is weird. I can read the article through this forum but not through my smartphone browser. Anyway, that headline is misleading. The article doesn't mention insurance. Instead it appears that deGrom's contract might get reduced if he sustains certain injuries and/or is sidelined for a certain period of time.

[MFS62]

The Rangers may indeed have been able to insure deGrom but I cant read the article because of the paywall. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/03/sports/injury-protection-included-jacob-degroms-big-money-deal-with-texas/https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12/03/sports/injury-protection-included-jacob-degroms-big-money-deal-with-texas/ This is weird. I can read the article through this forum but not through my smartphone browser. Anyway, that headline is misleading. The article doesn't mention insurance. Instead it appears that deGrom's contract might get reduced if he sustains certain injuries and/or is sidelined for a certain period of time.

According to WABC-TV, his contract is not insured.



Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

DeGrom signed a 5-year, $185 million deal with the Rangers in free agency. Texas took a chance on him despite knowing his history because they were desperate for pitching help. And they took an even bigger risk than many people realized. In response to the news of deGrom's surgery, we learned that the Rangers did not purchase insurance on the pitcher's contract. According to an article published by The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal last month, the Rangers chose not to pay for insurance on deGrom's deal because the cost would have been “prohibitively expensive.” What does that mean? Rather than be able recoup some expenses had they insured the contract, the Rangers will just have to eat all the money they owe deGrom for 2023 and 2024 regardless of how much time he misses due to injury. DeGrom is owed $30 million this year and $40 million next year. The one benefit the Rangers have as a result of deGrom's injury is that due to contract stipulations, they now will have an option for the pitcher in 2028. The 2028 team option could be worth either $37 million, $30 million or $20 million depending on a few factors related to the pitcher's performance. Had deGrom not suffered a major injury/missed significant time during his contract, the team would not have had a 2028 option for the pitcher.

https://larrybrownsports.com/baseball/detail-jacob-degrom-contract-rangers-insurance/616033https://larrybrownsports.com/baseball/detail-jacob-degrom-contract-rangers-insurance/616033

[Fman99]

I didn't think he left on the greatest terms but I feel for the guy. He wasn't doing me no harm in Arlington

[The Hot Corner]

I am not the least bit surprised that the Rangers find themselves paying an exorbitant amount of money for a few innings of stellar pitching from DeGrom. I'm just glad it isn't the Mets that are on the hook for his contract. Jake is a phenomenal talent. During his increasingly rare periods of health, he is a generational talent. He just isn't someone a team can or should count on.



I am sorry to see him suffer a serious injury and wish him an full recovery.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

The Hot Corner wrote: I am sorry to see him suffer a serious injury and wish him an full recovery.

I agree. Sad to see this happen. Baseball as a whole is better with a healthy Jacob deGrom.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Predicted tabloid headline: deJA VU!

Well, I was in the right ballpark anyway:



http://leaptoad.com/mets/covers/2023/20230607_NSD_02.jpg>

[kcmets]

I'm a sentimental Mets fan 78.376% of the time and I have to admit seeing

the footage of him crying at his press conference first thing this morning choked

me up a little bit.

[Benjamin Grimm]

San Diego Union Tribune, November 17, 2020 wrote: Of the 42 major league pitchers who have had two Tommy John surgeries, the majority did not pitch in the majors again after their second or fared poorly over a short period. But many of those pitchers were well into their 30s at the time of the second surgery.

Full article: https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/padres/story/2020-11-17/padres-second-tommy-john-surgery-mike-clevinger-nathan-eovaldi#:~:text=It%27s%20just%20not%20ever%20going,time%20of%20the%20second%20surgery.History of second Tommy John surgeries raises questions about Mike Clevinger's future

“On average, the typical TJ revision isn't as successful as the typical primary TJ,” Dr. Andrew Cosgarea, an orthopedic surgeon and professor at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, said Tuesday. “… The first time you drill a hole in the bone it is fresh and clean, but if it happens again you already have a hole there and that hole is filled with scar tissue. … Scar tissue isn't as healthy as original tissue. It doesn't have the same blood supply; (it is) not as durable.”

[metirish]

Wow yeah, doesn't sound good

[metsmarathon]

i feel so bad for jake. and for the rangers, and for baseball fans in general that deserve to have such an incredible pitcher as he out there throwing gas and making hitters look foolish. and also for the hall of fame, which is now not very likely to see his bust enshrined at all.

[Edgy MD]

Hey, now. Cooperstown enshrines plaques. Canton enshrines busts.



deGrom still has a shot at Canton. He can become a punter or something.