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The Mets have done enough this offseason that I'm not crushed. let;s win it all anyway!


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Lefty Specialist wrote:

I'd be more pissed about this if they didn't have the position already manned. They'd have had to make other moves with Escobar and Baty, and now they don't. Correa always felt a little like overkill.


Overkill compounded by overcommitment. They basically told Baty and Escobar "we don't think that much of you," and almost committed 12 years to a third baseman who hit 22 HRs last year. Not bad for a SS but no Mike Schmidt.


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Yeah I could never understand why they would commit 12 years to any player. That's not even realistic



I can see a player's desire to be paid 12 years guaranteed but I don't want it to be the Mets paying him


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I don't want it to be the Mets paying him


Well, you have to understand that money doesn't mean anything to Steve Cohen, and all our quaint notions of "expensive" and "potentially ruinous" are obsolete.



As are we, I suppose.


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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:

Lefty Specialist wrote:

Correa always felt a little like overkill.

Overkill compounded by overcommitment. They basically told Baty and Escobar "we don't think that much of you," and almost committed 12 years to a third baseman who hit 22 HRs last year. Not bad for a SS but no Mike Schmidt.

As Billy Joel asked, "Is that all you get for your money?"



Later


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I disagree that money doesn't mean anything to Steve Cohen.



Beyond that, an unwise move for the team is an unwise move for the team, even if his wealth is enormous. I'm sure that he'd agree at some level.


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And we can't be certain that the Mets can be as cavalier about Correa's salary in 2034 as they were about Robinson Cano's in 2022. A lot can happen in twelve years. By 2034, the team may be under the control of Steve Cohen's daughter Lorinda.


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So since I just heard today that Carlos Correa is a Twin maybe we should try to sign his brother. He could be exactly the same only without the ankle injury.


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Edgy MD wrote:

I disagree that money doesn't mean anything to Steve Cohen.




Well, there was a little sarcasm, or irony, or hyperbole, or undetectable skepticism, mixed into my remark. It's not that money doesn't have any meaning for Steve Cohen. More like "We don't, and probably can't, conceive of money in precisely the same way that Steve Cohen thinks of it, and 'stupid' to us probably seems 'could be smart' to him much of the time."


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If SF had signed him or MIN had re-signed him immediately I would have been fine with the team as is but when your owner tells you that a player is necessary to get the team "over the top" and you see that he would have been worth 3.5 wins per Fangraphs, I can't help but be upset at this turn of events.


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Hope the purchasers or gift recipients like Mets baseball for Mets baseball's sake.


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From ESPN:


Discussions focused on guarantee language. The Mets were fine keeping the 12-year, $315 million terms -- but wanted only half of it guaranteed. Over the final six years of the deal, according to sources, the Mets proposed their medical staff would conduct a physical on Correa at the end of each season -- regardless of his health during the season. The results of the physical would then determine whether the next year of the contract was picked up.



Boras wanted a deal closer to that of ones he'd negotiated in the past -- for J.D. Martinez and J.D. Drew with the Red Sox, Magglio Ordonez and Pudge Rodriguez with the Tigers -- containing provisions for specific injuries. With Martinez, for example, if he spent 60 days on the injured list with an injury related to the foot about which the Red Sox were concerned, they could convert the final two guaranteed years of his deal to mutual options.



The Mets stuck to their six-year, $157.5 million offer, and last week, with the sides making little progress, Boras ramped up his engagement with the Twins. Minnesota, more comfortable with Correa's medicals after seeing him up close for a year, cognizant that the guarantee for him had taken a hit on account of the injury, pounced.


https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35420204/mlb-correa-free-agency-line-2022-23https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35420204/mlb-correa-free-agency-line-2022-23


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Not bad! I guess I was envisioning more bloody-shark-waters type stuff

but they 'behaved' themselves.


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They all have a little something, but I like The Snooze the best.

Intentional Pass is kinda clever.


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NY Post has him saying this at his Twins press conference today.


Carlos Correa on ultimately choosing Twins over Mets:



"I want to be a part of a team that doesn't buy championships," Correa told reporters in a surprise press conference where he made his announcement. "One team handing out all that money isn't good for the sport."


Oh OK then


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NY Post has him saying this at his Twins press conference today.


Carlos Correa on ultimately choosing Twins over Mets:



"I want to be a part of a team that doesn't buy championships," Correa told reporters in a surprise press conference where he made his announcement. "One team handing out all that money isn't good for the sport."


Oh OK then


I guess that's why Correa ultimately didnt sign with the Mets: because the Mets offered him too much money. And because they already had too many high priced players. I'll put that one with the one about deGrom wanting to win so badly that he left the Mets for a team that finished 38 games out of first place. Are these players so spoiled, so used to having everything go their way that they think everybody's gonna believe whatever they say all of the time?


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That "one team" quote is fabricated. From a parody account -- the Porch (not the Post).




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Can't blame Correa if the Mets insisted on yearly physicals following the 6 year guaranteed portion. The missing time clause makes sense.



I think either we screwed up here, or Cohen had cold feet and tanked the deal.


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Can't blame Correa if the Mets insisted on yearly physicals following the 6 year guaranteed portion.

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Joe Posnanski's take. First he explains the Giants' botched signing as buyer's remorse and then


The Mets are a little bit harder to explain, but again, as a guess — Correa's signing seemed a rash impulse buy from Cohen, not unlike Elon Musk and Twitter. It happened so incredibly fast (and while Cohen was on vacation in Hawaii), and I think when morning came, Cohen was like: “Wait a minute, what have I done here?” When the medical report popped up the way it did, I think Cohen was like: “OK, I still want him, but only on our terms.”


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