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A Boy Named Seo

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Damn, Hayseed got PAID! Good for him, good for us. I really like the team with Nimmo in CF and Marte in right. Comfortable with him in center for at least 4 of those 8 years. Raise a cold, glass of 2% vitamin D milk for our wholesome boy.


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Very pleased to see that Nimmo is back in the fold. He brings energy to the team. Would like a right handed DH (not named Ruf) and a few more quality arms for the pen.


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A Boy Named Seo wrote:

Damn, Hayseed got PAID! Good for him, good for us. I really like the team with Nimmo in CF and Marte in right.


Aye. We were looking at an outfield of Cahna, Marte, and McNeil, and that was feeling a bit jerry-rigged.


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Glad they kept Nimmo, but 8 years, sheesh.


He's the kind of guy who can lose .050 points off his OBA and still help you, lose range in the OF and some arm strength and still play a decent LF, lose some speed and run the bases ok. And I don't expect that process to start for a little while.



I read something interesting about these long-range-contracts today--that it's better to pay 200 million over 10 years, even though those last few years are $$$ flushed down the donnicker, than it is to pay 150 mil over five because the luxury tax will kill you. Not saying it's true but it makes some sense.


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based on this signing, and robertson too, fangraphs' depth charts has the mets projected as the second best team in the mlb, with a projected WAR of 51.5, just ahead of the braves at 50.9. the padres sit atop the list with a projected WAR of 52.3. a replacement-level team sits around 45-wins, as near as i can tell.



the mets project currently to having the 7th best batters/fielders, and the best pitching staff.



not a bad place to be after the winter meetings.


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not gonna fret too much over like 2029. Nimmo's a good player and happy to have him around for a while. I'd like him to get his game more in-line with his pre-2022 metrics, feel like he adjusted a little too much last year and took fewer walks. He swung A LOT more, particularly out of the zone, which seems like a bad-ish habit to get into. Those are the kind of things that can hurt you in aging, swinging at hard to hit pitches and then suddenly you can't make the contact you wanted to. I think this might have been a team-philosophy thing last year, more contact. It hurt his numbers a bit. Maybe there's an argument to be made that team-wide adherence to this philosophy lifts team offense at expense of individual, but I'm not sure I buy that.



Seems like Mets will lead the league in HBP again though.



Brandon Nimmo is currently 34th in PA for the Mets, with 2368. Michael Conforto the "active" leader (also a guy I wouldn't mind bringing back, for the power) with 2980. David Wright has 6872. Nimmo would have to average 563 a year. Only 15 guys have gotten that many over the last 8 (and maybe 10 more prorated Covid year)



323 walks is 20th (9 behind Duda). Wright had 762. ~55 walks a season does that. His career BB% easily gets that done, his 2022, not so much.



Already leads in HBP.


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=Fman99 post_id=114382 time=1670585239 user_id=86]
This is great news. He's really a player that didn't have an equivalent out there in the FA market so I'm glad he's staying put.

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fangraphs sez nimmo's 5.4 WAR 2022 was worth $43M. he projects next year at 4.6 WAR, which is a reasonable and safe projection. at that level of production, he'll could end up being quite a bargain, since OBP isn't valued in the market nearly as much as big whomping homers, or shortstopping.


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If you're Buck, do you strategize with him on getting his walks total back to where it was? Or leave him be?



In other words, is Nimmo's decline in walks a problem or a one-year blip?


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Nimmo himself would be the one to know whether he's changed his approach to pitch selection and recognition, and if so, whether that change will continue into 2023. Or .maybe his pitch recognition skills are suddenly in decline. Or if it's health related, and then, how permanent that is. Unless it's just randomness. Or maybe the pitches are in the strike zone more and more often. Me, I wouldnt have a clue, but thanks for asking. But me and Nimmo are going to the FIFA World Cup final next week so I'll be sure to ask him on your behalf when we're in Qatar. Great question, though. Keep 'em coming. You're on a roll. Unless anybody else here already knows this answer. Also, I'd like to know why Brandon didn't hit a homer on May 8, 2021.



And finally, problem and one year blip aren't mutually exclusive.But keep the questions coming. Do you think that Buck should also work on having Nimmo hit 50 or 60 HR's next season? 50 or 60 is so much better than mid-teens.


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=roger_that post_id=114432 time=1670614994 user_id=128]
If you're Buck, do you strategize with him on getting his walks total back to where it was? Or leave him be?



In other words, is Nimmo's decline in walks a problem or a one-year blip?

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If anyone has an intelligent answer to my question, I'd be interested in hearing it.


Ask a stupid, attention craving question ....



If you're Buck, do you strategize with him on getting his walks total back to where it was? Or leave him be?



In other words, is Nimmo's decline in walks a problem or a one-year blip?




I'm not sure why you use the phrase "In other words". Your two dumb questions aren't synonymous. Which means you've asked two distinct dumb questions. Also, I'd have to be Buck to answer your first question, but not necessarily Buck to answer your second one. And again, "problem" and "one year blip" aren't mutually exclusive because it could be a one-year problem. Which theoretically, could be synoynmous with one-year blip. I guess your query for the 19th centerfielder on the Mets depth chart didn't draw enough interest to satisfy you.



Are we trying too hard to impress?


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If anyone has an intelligent answer to my question, I'd be interested in hearing it.


scroll up? I talked about it in my post. tl:dr Maybe it's an Eric Chavez philosophy thing. He's swinging at more pitches outside the zone and it's bad for his personal numbers. He should absolutely stop it. It's a problem, precisely for the reason's Eno describes in this tweet. But if it was a conscious choice to swing more, it's not a problem so much as an "easily" fixable approach thing. Especially going into a second year where advanced scouting is going to reflect him swinging at more pitches outside of the zone. He should readjust and set a career high BB%.




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