2022 HOF Ballot

[nymr83]

David Ortiz

Alex Rodriguez

Barry Bonds

Roger Clemens

Curt Schilling

Sammy Sosa

Todd Helton

Jeff Kent

Manny Ramirez

Scott Rolen

Omar Vizquel

[duan]

This is very very good ...

[Edgy MD]

Bradford's is a very roidy ballot. Also, I think the first seven of his 10 spent key parts of their careers in that Yankee/Red Sox rivalry.



I think Gar's favorite players to do are David Ortíz and Pete Rose.

[bmfc1]

If I was a voter, I would never vote for someone who said that I should be killed, but that's just me.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-bonds-hall-of-fame-20220106-vsqy6jwkgvht7ipnht4qakfi2i-story.htmlhttps://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-bonds-hall-of-fame-20220106-vsqy6jwkgvht7ipnht4qakfi2i-story.html



This column by Steve Salerno in the Daily News seems to imply it's OK Barry Bonds allegedly used steroids because pitchers have Tommy John surgery. I can't tell if he's serious of if this is satire.



Meanwhile Buster Olney is opining that the Ballot Tracker site is bad because it forecasts how the votes are going and he'd rather be surprised at the announcement.



And then there is this from Nick Canepa at the San Diego Union Tribune, defending his blank ballot:

Because, just as my 2020 Hall ballot for modern players went back empty, 2021's had no names checked, either. It may seem strange, given the way elections are viewed in this country, but I don't vote for any person/player I don't believe deserves it. I consider Cooperstown's Hall an incredibly tough make. It should be easier to get into the Vatican Archives. Vested baseball writers are allowed to vote for 10 players retired for five years (some are added and some run out of eligibility every year). I've never voted for 10. And, in that I don't select many, if I don't go for someone the first time he appears on the ballot, he's never getting my vote. What has he done to change my mind?Anyway, no one added to this modern ballot excited me. And, in that I don't vote for druggies or designated hitters (I prefer real baseball players), the residue is 30 unchecked boxes. If we get dominating players, there will be better luck next time.

Designated hitters are not real baseball players?



And, the writer from the Toronto Sun is voting only for Andruw Jones, Curt Schilling, and Gary Sheffield. The odd thing is he says he never supported players from the steroid era, but is either unaware or or ignoring Sheffield's alleged use.

My baseball Hall of Fame ballot is due at the end of this month. I have never been so conflicted about how to vote this year and who to vote for. Historically, since being granted a vote, I've never supported those of the steroid era. And now, with Alex Rodriguez and David Ortiz joining Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa and Manny Ramirez on the ballot, the list of those tainted by performance-enhancing drugs growing larger. Were I of a different mind, those might be six easy votes, certainly five. You're allowed to vote for as many 10 players. I vote for Curt Schilling most years in spite of who he is and have voted for Andruw Jones every year he's been eligible, and usually Gary Sheffield. I strongly considered Jeff Kent, Scott Rolen, Billy Wagner and Todd Helton — all of them upper-echelon players. To me, the Hall of Fame is for the greatest of the greats. That's where those men lose out for me. So it feels very odd to leave all-time steroid greats off the ballot and wind up voting for Schilling, Jones, and Sheffield. As I wrote the other day, this ballot seems to me to be more about who I choose not to vote for rather than who I do support

This blogger calls out Newsday's Steve Marcus:https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/11/for-second-year-in-a-row-baseball-writer-submits-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-zero-selections.htmlhttps://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/11/for-second-year-in-a-row-baseball-writer-submits-hall-of-fame-ballot-with-zero-selections.html

I just submitted my 2022 Hall of Fame ballot with no selections. I omitted the new and usual PED suspects and, at his own request, Curt Schilling. Strongly considered Scott Rolen, but determined Rolen does not compare with the elite third basemen already in Cooperstown. #HOF — Steve Marcus (@newsdayalum) November 29, 2021 We can argue the steroid thing for days, but even then, there are guys on this ballot who are HOF-worthy non-cheaters. And for what it's worth, Steve Marcus isn't even in the full-time writing business anymore. He used to work for Newsday and in 2020 submitted a ballot with Derek Jeter as the only selection. So you ask yourself why these guys have votes if they're not going to use them. There are so many qualified and hungry baseball media members who take the responsibility seriously and don't use the platform for contrarian attention seeking. The problem is the old-school baseball vanguard, which reeks of self-importance, with elder scribes bloviating about the integrity of the game and hallowed status of the BBWAA and all of that nonsense. It's so goofy. These guys write about baseball, but if you ask them, their work is right up there with finding the cure for cancer.

[Edgy MD]

Nick Canepa belongs in the first-person pronoun Hall of Fame. His use of "I, me, my, and mine" per sentence is nothing short of prodigious.



I'm not sure I get the "Vatican archives" analogy. When he speaks of getting "into" the Vatican archives, is he speaking of writers and artisans whose original or reproduced works are stored there or is he speaking of researchers permitted to visit the archives?



Or his he just a Dan Brown fan and wanted to work that in there somehow?

[Fman99]

No (likely) cheaty Peteys on my list. If you're jabbing someone in the ass with something you best be doing so on an adult content web site.



Prince Fielder

David Ortiz

Todd Helton

Andruw Jones

Jeff Kent

Scott Rolen

Omar Vizquel

[stevejrogers]

=Fman99 post_id=84282 time=1641769910 user_id=86]
No (likely) cheaty Peteys on my list. If you're jabbing someone in the ass with something you best be doing so on an adult content web site.



Prince Fielder

David Ortiz

Todd Helton

Andruw Jones

Jeff Kent

Scott Rolen

Omar Vizquel

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe turned in a ballot with exactly one name: Jeff Kent.



https://apps.bostonglobe.com/sports/graphics/2022/01/baseball-hall-of-fame-voting-2022/https://apps.bostonglobe.com/sports/graphics/2022/01/baseball-hall-of-fame-voting-2022/

[Willets Point]

Shank has such a punchable face.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Mark Purdy, retired sports columnist for the Mercury News/Bay Area News Group, casts his ballot checking the box for just one player: Billy Wagner.



Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune votes for just three: Mark Buehrle (?), Todd Helton and David Ortiz.



Juan Vene of JuanVene.com also picks three: His column referenced the ballot only with:

I voted for the 2022 Hall of Fame, for Scott Rolen, Andy Pettitte and Billy Wagner... I'll leave it there!

I'm starting to think maybe the Veterans Committee isn't so bad after all.

[Edgy MD]

The current version of the Veteran's Committee is more like ad hoc committees tasked with reviewing certain cases in narrow categories. And they have been better — more consistent at least and generally picking either nobody or the the guys with the best case on their lists.



The upside of the BBWAA ballot is that the electorate is so vast that those weird ballots carry only so much weight. On one of the ad hoc committees, with an electorate of (usually) 12, a single weirdo can (and often does) swing the result.

[Edgy MD]

And hey, Mark Buehrle isn't the worst choice. I don't see opening the door for him before Schilling, but, well, Schilling is Schilling, and maybe the voter has more on Schilling than is generally known.

[86dreamer]

I am a big hall guy, and unable to distinguish who did from who didn't, so I just go with who I think are the best in comparison to others that have played their same position historically:



Arod

Bonds

Clemens

Schilling

Jones

Rolen

Sheffield

Kent

Helton

Wagner



I'll vote for Papi next time, nothing personal. Further down the best all time 1B list than any of these are at their respective position.

[metsmarathon]

=86dreamer post_id=84814 time=1642599527 user_id=97]
I am a big hall guy, and unable to distinguish who did from who didn't, so I just go with who I think are the best in comparison to others that have played their same position historically:



Arod

Bonds

Clemens

Schilling

Jones

Rolen

Sheffield

Kent

Helton

Wagner



I'll vote for Papi next time, nothing personal. Further down the best all time 1B list than any of these are at their respective position.

[kcmets]

Writing in Jethro Tull next time I get a say so.



Put all the cheaters in and let's be done with it. Pete Rose's speech and a few of

the others will be be priceless humor-wise.

[stevejrogers]

=kcmets post_id=84826 time=1642611129 user_id=53]
Writing in Jethro Tull next time I get a say so.



Put all the cheaters in and let's be done with it. Pete Rose's speech and a few of

the others will be be priceless humor-wise.

[Edgy MD]

Brace for impact.

[Willets Point]

What time is the announcement?

[Edgy MD]

Six o'clock this evening, just as you should be in the middle of a dream.

[Willets Point]

I'm always in the middle of a dream.

[Edgy MD]

Rob Parker went for Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield, and Sosa, but felt too sketchy about Ortíz?



All expectations seem to be for one or zero candidates to cross the line.

[Frayed Knot]

One electee only and it's... Papi!!!

[Edgy MD]

Welcome to the Hall of Fame, David Ortíz, and only David Ortíz.



A worthy companion for Gil Hodges.

[bmfc1]

Suck it, Bonds, Clemens, and Schilling.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: Rob Parker went for Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield, and Sosa, but felt too sketchy about Ortíz?

I don't like to name call based solely on a HoF ballot, so I won't ... but Parker's a dope for oh so many reasons.

[Edgy MD]

I wonder who was the last Hall of Famer to survive a shooting.

[Frayed Knot]

77.9% -- so a very close call.

[Edgy MD]

Curt Schilling: "I'm requesting to be removed from the ballot."



BBWAA Voters: "Happy to oblige."

[kcmets]

No Pettitte? I demand a recount!



Congrats to Big Papi.