Pick One

[Edgy MD]

That endorsement for R.A. Dickey for the Mets Holla Fame in a thread below came as a surprise.With Edgardo Alfonso, Ron Darling, and Jon Matlack being inducted into the Mets Hall of Fame this summer, we see the team trying to make up for some lost time. Dickey is not unqualified certainly, but he wasn't on my frontlist.



So, the Mets call you and say that they will henceforth be inducting one figure per year, and you're on the committee. Each committee member gets to nominate one figure, and then you can all get together and fight it out. Who is your nominee, understanding that you cannot nominate current inductees and electees (I shouldn't have to say that, but I do), nor anyone nominated by another cat before you. We must have unique nominees, dig? The initial goal here is to pursue the curiousity of the distinct cases, rather than establishing overwhelming support for the leading case.



Current Inductees Include



Tommie Agee

Gary Carter

Frank Cashen

John Franco

Dwight Gooden

Jerry Grote

Bud Harrelson

Keith Hernandez

Davey Johnson

Gil Hodges

Cleon Jones

Ralph Kiner

Jerry Koosman

Ed Kranepool

Tug McGraw

Bob Murphy

Johnny Murphy

Lindsey Nelson

Joan Whitney Payson

Mike Piazza

Tom Seaver

William Shea

Rusty Staub

Casey Stengel

Darryl Strawberry

George Weiss

Mookie Wilson



Current Not-Yet-Inducted Electee Include



Edgardo Alfonzo

Ron Darling

Jon Matlack

[MFS62]

Al Jackson



Later

[Benjamin Grimm]

David Wright

[Edgy MD]

Those were the first two I expected to come off the board. I suspect Wright's induction in 2023 or 2024 has already been a-scheduled.

[kcmets]

I don't pay close attention; but kinda surprised that Fonz, Matlack and

Ronnie aren't already in. Edgardo was like Mr. Met for years.

[Gwreck]

Al Leiter.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I re-arranged Mets player HOF'ers in chronological order of their Mets debut. I find this arrangement more helpful. 1983 was the most bountiful season for Mets HOF'ers debuting (three).



Ed Kranepool

Cleon Jones

Tug McGraw

Bud Harrelson

Jerry Grote

Tom Seaver

Jerry Koosman

Tommie Agee

Jon Matlack

Rusty Staub

Mookie Wilson

Darryl Strawberry

Keith Hernandez

Ron Darling

Dwight Gooden

Gary Carter

John Franco

Edgardo Alfonzo

Mike Piazza

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Bobby Valentine

Terry Collins

Sid Fernandez

Agree on Wright -- natch! -- and Leiter

The PED accusation makes it more challenging, but Todd Hundley

[Edgy MD]

Hey man, ONE!

[G-Fafif]

Next on merit:

Howard Johnson



Next with time as a factor:

Ron Hunt

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Edgy MD wrote: Hey man, ONE!

Sorry about that! Friday of a long week.



Terry Collins!

[Edgy MD]

=G-Fafif post_id=69939 time=1625252369 user_id=55]
Next on merit:

Howard Johnson



Next with time as a factor:

Ron Hunt

[G-Fafif]

Edgy MD wrote: =G-Fafif post_id=69939 time=1625252369 user_id=55] Next on merit: Howard Johnson Next with time as a factor: Ron Hunt

I appreciate your style, but we ask that you whittle down to one and hope somebody grabs your other candidate.

[Edgy MD]

Good call, HoJo would agree, I hope.

[G-Fafif]

BTW, I hope future (annual) inductions take the approach being taken with the upcoming class, with several generations represented at once to both make up for lost time and make it extra special for fans who can connect to different parts of their lives and the franchise's life.



“Pick one” is fine as a Metsullectual exercise, but “pick a bunch at a time” is how I hope the NYMHOF committee proceeds.

[Fman99]

Another vote for El Sid

[Benjamin Grimm]

I have nine more names that I would nominate, beyond those that have already been officially placed on the table.

[Chad ochoseis]

Jesse Orosco. Don't know that I'd vote for him, necessarily, but he has a case.

[Edgy MD]

BTW, I hope future (annual) inductions take the approach being taken with the upcoming class, with several generations represented at once to both make up for lost time and make it extra special for fans who can connect to different parts of their lives and the franchise's life. “Pick one” is fine as a Metsullectual exercise, but “pick a bunch at a time” is how I hope the NYMHOF committee proceeds.

Understood. But how long should respectful restraint yield to respectful need to catch up, I wonder? Onsies can be so much more momentous.



I guess the answer should be "multiple guys at a time until they have one for every year since 1981." At that rate, Jon Matlack would bring us up to 2010, I think.

Another vote for El Sid

Well, I guess its less a call for a vote than a call for an adopted cause, uniquely your own, but Sid is available because Milkshake tried to horde a bunch of guys.



A worthy name.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I have nine more names that I would nominate, beyond those that have already been officially placed on the table.

Me too. And I'm not even on record here yet.



Lest it go unrecognized, non-playing candidacies are certainly encouraged.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Jesse Orosco was one of my nine.

[Edgy MD]

Mine also.

[G-Fafif]

The only “ONE AND ONLY ONE” I'd consider as “this guy should go in on his own because he's this guy” is Wright, and I'd pair the occasion with 5 rising to the rafters. The irony would be David is is as selfless a character as one could imagine and he'd happily share his day with any 5 Mets.

[Edgy MD]

Certainly, I was just thundering with the idea that each cause deserves it's own advocate.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Letter certainly deserves in.

[Frayed Knot]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Letter certainly deserves in.

But, but, but ... HE HAD KAZMIR TRADED!!!!

[MFS62]

I don't think any of the others mentioned in this thread wore a Mets uniform (player or coach) for more years than "Little" Al Jackson.

He goes back to the very first year and was a player or mentor to countless Mets players for a half century.

He IS Mr. Met.

He deserves to be honored for his contributions to the team, both on and off the field.



Later

[Gwreck]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I have nine more names that I would nominate, beyond those that have already been officially placed on the table.

By contrast, I don't think there are 9 names in total that I would put in. Even including Reyes and Beltran (who have some issues with their candidacies). I'm not a fan of marginal candidates being inducted.



Maybe I could get to 9 if I included Gary and Howie.

[Benjamin Grimm]

My nine are five players, two managers, one broadcaster, and one coach.



(And the players include Orosco, as mentioned above, and Reyes and Beltran, who I agree are problematic. I would nominate them, but not sure I would induct them.)

[Edgy MD]

Beltran is marginal?



Ouch.

[stevejrogers]

I don't think any of the others mentioned in this thread wore a Mets uniform (player or coach) for more years than "Little" Al Jackson. He goes back to the very first year and was a player or mentor to countless Mets players for a half century. He IS Mr. Met. He deserves to be honored for his contributions to the team, both on and off the field. Later

He's getting the HOF Achievement Award this year. Bob Mandt, Harold Minor and Pete Flynn were past recipients.