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Centerfield wrote:
The latest buzz is that the Cubs are in on Heyward.

They've already had a good winter in picking up Lackey and Zobrist. If they add Heyward to that team that won 97 games....


You can't let that happen Sandy. Go get Heyward.


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Guess the Mets just don't care who gets better by spending.


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More news from the lobby: Mets not the mystery team in pursuit of
Heyward, happy enough with moves made thus far.

Plus, they got Cuddyer last year.


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I guess of the three teams pursuing Heyward, it would be best if he went back to St. Louis.

I want no part of him on Washington, and the Cubs are already better than the team we saw in October.

Of course that the beat writers having narrowed it to these three clubs means nothing. Anaheim could swoop in any time I guess.


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d'Kong76 wrote:
More news from the lobby: Mets not the mystery team in pursuit of
Heyward, happy enough with moves made thus far.

Plus, they got Cuddyer last year.


the terrible signing that keeps on giving!


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Yup�, internet just exploded. Jeez.


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Guess some teams see an opportunity and run with it.


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And better pitching. Cubs are not done yet. Still looking for a starter.

You have to tip your hat to Epstein. He really knows how to build a winner. Develop solid homegrown players. When they are ready, surround them with elite talent.


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d'Kong76 wrote:
Guess some teams see an opportunity and run with it.


Don't worry Kase. We'll get Heyward. Someday he'll be a 35 year old washed up player and we'll pounce then.


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Eh, fuck it... maybe the Mets will win another pennant or two before
I'm put out to pasture.


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Wow, how strange:

National League Team in one of the very largest media markets in the country makes playoffs after five consecutive losing seasons.
Plays well, but falls short of championship.
Goes out, adds significant players in free agency in order to improve team.

Oh, wait. Did I say strange? There's nothing strange about that at all.


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Flushing all the pitching down the toilet with no improvements made.
They're not going to be Mets forever.
I can't believe more people aren't outraged.


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d'Kong76 wrote:
Flushing all the pitching down the toilet with no improvements made.
They're not going to be Mets forever.
I can't believe more people aren't outraged.


A. They are better.
B. The Nationals are worse.
C. Heyward isn't that good.
D. There are other players.
E. It's December, not April.


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Wow, how strange:

National League Team in one of the very largest media markets in the country makes playoffs after five consecutive losing seasons.
Plays well, but falls short of championship.
Goes out, adds significant players in free agency in order to improve team.

Oh, wait. Did I say strange? There's nothing strange about that at all.


The Cubs are significantly better than they were in October. The Mets have taken a big step back.

Earlier Vic Sage posted that the Mets needed Zobrist and Heyward. Looks like the Cubs were the only team listening.


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Centerfield wrote:
Earlier Vic Sage posted that the Mets needed Zobrist and Heyward. Looks like the Cubs were the only team listening.

Are we sure Vic isn't really Theo Epstein?
Has anyone ever seen them together in the same room?
Just wondering.

Anyhow, in answer to the thread title's question, if the final deal is for the $200 million anticipated by the press, he can play anywhere he wants.

Later


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And now the Cardinals, having lost a key hitter in their lineup, and turning to players who can maybe platoon in the outfield like Will Venable.

Wait, that's not true. That would be stupid.

Cards are said to be in on Alex Gordon, looking to replace the hole in their lineup.


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Ceetar wrote:
A. They are better.
B. The Nationals are worse.
C. Heyward isn't that good.
D. There are other players.
E. It's December, not April.

I hope that orange and blue lollipop lasts all winter and you can
bring it to spring training.
Centerfield wrote:
The Cubs are significantly better than they were in October. The Mets have taken a big step back.

This is clear thinking, maybe two big steps back... and with no apparent
plan to do anything significant on the horizon. I wouldn't be surprised if they
just shut down things until mid-January.


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d'Kong76 wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
A. They are better.
B. The Nationals are worse.
C. Heyward isn't that good.
D. There are other players.
E. It's December, not April.

I hope that orange and blue lollipop lasts all winter and you can
bring it to spring training.
Centerfield wrote:
The Cubs are significantly better than they were in October. The Mets have taken a big step back.

This is clear thinking, maybe two big steps back... and with no apparent
plan to do anything significant on the horizon. I wouldn't be surprised if they
just shut down things until mid-January.


It's not a lollipop it's a pennant and it's delicious.

Most teams are relatively quiet between mid Dec and mid-Jan, but there's really no indication the Mets are done, or have taken a step back. Especially in relation to the Nats.


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d'Kong76 wrote:
I can't believe more people aren't outraged.


I've been saying it over and over and I still can't believe it. This is the real shocker for me. The Wilpons falling through, while disappointing, was always a strong possibility. It's just crazy that so many are ok with this.

You, me, Vic, Gwreck. Batmags has been there for years. BG agrees in his own calm way. Everyone else seems like they're just "eh, whatevers".


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Centerfield wrote:
d'Kong76 wrote:
I can't believe more people aren't outraged.


I've been saying it over and over and I still can't believe it. This is the real shocker for me. The Wilpons falling through, while disappointing, was always a strong possibility. It's just crazy that so many are ok with this.

You, me, Vic, Gwreck. Batmags has been there for years. BG agrees in his own calm way. Everyone else seems like they're just "eh, whatevers".


I have never been "eh, whatevers" when it comes to these cheap, lying bastards.

It's a long winter - if nothing else gets done by spring training, like last year, then I will bitch and moan like I did a year ago.


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dgwphotography wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
d'Kong76 wrote:
I can't believe more people aren't outraged.


I've been saying it over and over and I still can't believe it. This is the real shocker for me. The Wilpons falling through, while disappointing, was always a strong possibility. It's just crazy that so many are ok with this.

You, me, Vic, Gwreck. Batmags has been there for years. BG agrees in his own calm way. Everyone else seems like they're just "eh, whatevers".


I have never been "eh, whatevers" when it comes to these cheap, lying bastards.

It's a long winter - if nothing else gets done by spring training, like last year, then I will bitch and moan like I did a year ago.


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I'm newer to it than some, but the Madoff excuse has expired and you're
selling office buildings for huge profits but cheaping out on our ballclub.

No point going on about it in the Heyward thread.


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i'll take a measured approach to my discontent with heyward going to the cubs. for now. it's a hefty price to pay, but he's probably worth it, and would have fit rather well here.

i'm still willing to see how the rest of the offseason pans out. i was disappointed we didnt get zobrist, but am happier that we ended up with walker. (and confused by cabrera...)

what is our plan b for this one?


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I'm with d'Kong76. While the season doesn't start tomorrow, Heyward was the biggest prize. If the Mets sign Cespedes, or perhaps Span, + Colon + Blevins + a right RP, they'll be fine but it's disappointing that they didn't even make an effort here (because they would have told us if they did, as they did with Zobrist).


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Heyward for 8 years at 23 million/yr makes me think that the 4 years older Cespedes may have trouble getting a 5 year deal. The Mets have never been closer to "one player away" status than they are now, and Cespedes is that one player. Come on Wilpons - 4 years, $100 million and you can start printing those playoff tickets....


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