Now let's resume our discussion of Ben Zobrist

[Centerfield]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Supposedly 4 years, $80 million (presumably from the Nats) is on the table. If so, I'll take my chances with Dilson Herrera.

Holy crap. That is crazy money for a 35 year old.

[seawolf17]

Centerfield wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: Supposedly 4 years, $80 million (presumably from the Nats) is on the table. If so, I'll take my chances with Dilson Herrera. Holy crap. That is crazy money for a 35 year old.

Eff that. No thanks.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Supposedly 4 years, $80 million (presumably from the Nats) is on the table. If so, I'll take my chances with Dilson Herrera.

Yeah, that's totally crazy.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Was thinking 4/60 myself but who the heck knows

[TransMonk]

I'd tell him to enjoy DC if they're willing to give him $20M per for his late thirties.

I don't want any part of that.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Ken Rosenthal wrote: Asked someone who would know if Zobrist has four-year, $80M offer. Answer: �No way.�

[Frayed Knot]

Bob Nightengale ?@BNightengale 16m 16 minutes ago Ben Zobrist has a four-year, $80 million offer on the table. The #Mets still considered favorites to ultimately land him.

Asked someone who would know if Zobrist has four-year, $80M offer. Answer: �No way.�

I tend to believe Rosenthal here over Nightingale -- or, perhaps more accurately, Rosenthal's source over Nightengale's.
Zobrist may very well get four but I don't think even a younger version of himself gets $20, and I certainly would bet against him getting both.

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[Ceetar]

market value continually goes up. (and one could argue, rightly)

if 4/80 is market value for Ben Zobrist, than it is. Looks like it's not, but if Zobrist is the best fit, the Mets should pay whatever it takes to get him.

[Centerfield]

Let's hope so.

If Zobrist gets $20 million per, you'd have to think Cespedes would warrant $30 million.

And Heyward will get a billion per season.

[Edgy MD]

So, I'm going to guess a Nationals employee leaked the 4x20 figure to Nightengale � who he knows from the DC beat � just to bid up the Mets.

[Lefty Specialist]

Edgy MD wrote: So, I'm going to guess a Nationals employee leaked the 4x20 figure to Nightengale � who he knows from the DC beat � just to bid up the Mets.

Well, let's hope the brain trust isn't dumb enough to fall for it then. For that money he can enjoy DC.

I'm not really on the Zobrist bandwagon. I understand he's versatile and a switch-hitter and his wife can bend knives with her thoughts, but I don't like Herrera being blocked, and we'd be paying for a guy from 35-38.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

DiComo sez:

The #Mets' final drop-dead offer for Ben Zobrist is not yet on the table. But it could and (probably will) be real, real soon. Stay tuned.

[Frayed Knot]

NYDN: A Mets official told the News Tuesday afternoon that the reported 4-year, $80 million offer for Zobrist did not come from them, and added if he does have that offer from another team, �God bless him if he does.�
The $80 million offer was reported by USA Today. "We're going to 5 (years) for 100 (million)," joked another Mets official.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Ceetar wrote: market value continually goes up. (and one could argue, rightly) if 4/80 is market value for Ben Zobrist, than it is. Looks like it's not, but if Zobrist is the best fit, the Mets should pay whatever it takes to get him.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe that's today's fair market value, and not just another garishly overpriced contract (offer) that Met fans can easily dismiss.

[Ceetar]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ceetar wrote: market value continually goes up. (and one could argue, rightly) if 4/80 is market value for Ben Zobrist, than it is. Looks like it's not, but if Zobrist is the best fit, the Mets should pay whatever it takes to get him. I was thinking the same thing. Maybe that's today's fair market value, and not just another garishly overpriced contract (offer) that Met fans can easily dismiss.

There's a little bit of chicken/egg of course. But whatever, players are getting a historic low percentage of baseball's revenue.

[Edgy MD]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Edgy MD wrote: So, I'm going to guess a Nationals employee leaked the 4x20 figure to Nightengale � who he knows from the DC beat � just to bid up the Mets. Well, let's hope the brain trust isn't dumb enough to fall for it then. For that money he can enjoy DC.

Well, I meant to imply that the leak was bullshit and the Nats were offering nothing of the sort.

[Benjamin Grimm]

On Mets Hot Stove tonight, Jim Duquette said that the Nationals are out of the picture on Zobrist and it's down to two teams, the Mets and the Cubs.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I allowed myself the momentary terror of thinking the spurned Nats get back at us by signing Muffy and we regret it.

We really need Cleveland, Oakland or Tampa to come through for us here.

[Edgy MD]

Oakland ain't signing no Muff.

Now Colorady... there's a Muffy team. Or he goes to Chicago as a consolation prize for the BZ Sweeps. I can't say for certain why, but I think he stays in the NL, but the AL Central is always muscling up. White Sox, Tigers, Twins, Native Americans? Why not?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Ken Rosenthal wrote: Source: Zobrist choosing between #Mets and #Cubs. Comparable offers. Only question is which team he wants to join. #Nationals on periphery.

Ken Rosenthal wrote: Sources: #Cubs on Zobrist. Need other moves to come together.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Rosenthal says it's Zobby to Cubs.

[bmfc1]

If Zobrist would rather play in the second city and not the first city for the team that was swept rather than the team that did the sweeping, screw him.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Now what are we going to talk about? Mets can't even land the
old guy they were so hot for.

[A Boy Named Seo]

I'm not terribly unhappy with this development.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Me neither. I was hoping they'd get him, but not getting him has it's benefits. Nobody blocking Dilson Herrera. About $15 million that can be (and hopefully will be) allocated elsewhere.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Rosenthal reporting that it's four years, $56 million.

So that means it's $14 million the Mets can allocate elsewhere.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Amazinly, Cubs trade Starlin Castro to MFYs to free up the infield jam adding Zobrist provided them.

[Edgy MD]

Whoops.

[Fman99]

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I'm not terribly unhappy with this development.

Same here. PAY MUFFERS INSTEAD YOU BOOBS.

[Zvon]

Any truth to this business that the Mets offered him 4/$60 and he still went to the Cubs for 4/$56?