Farmer Ted Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Oh, TMZ, I hope you got this one wrong.TMZ has learned New York Mets star pitcher Johan Santana was accused in a police report of sexual battery that allegedly went down on a Florida golf course ... but the case went nowhere.TMZ obtained a copy of the report filed with the Lee County Sheriff's Office on October 28, 2009 -- one day after the alleged attack in Fort Myers. In the document, the accuser (referred to only as Jane Doe) claims she and Santana were walking on the golf course when he "began to kiss her and pull up her top, unclasping her bra."The report continues: "Johan began to pull at [the accuser's] skirt/skort and attempt [sic] to place his hands into her underwear." According to the document the alleged victim "told Johan no multiple times but Johan persisted."The report gets more graphic, when the accuser claims Santana penetrated her, grabbed and bruised her calf, and "ejaculated on her upper thigh."The accuser claims she "cleaned her thigh with her underwear" -- and then returned to a tennis court with Santana, and actually watched him play tennis with someone else. According to the report, a detective collected all of the accuser's clothing as evidence.A spokesperson from the Sheriff's Office tells TMZ Sheriff's detectives met several times with the prosecutor from the State's Attorney's Office to review the case. Law enforcement sources say DNA evidence did prove there was intercourse, but, according to a Sheriff's document, the prosecutor concluded, "There was not enough evidence to prove lack of consent, the alleged victim's statement is not consistent with other witnesses." The case was closed out on December 8, 2009.We contacted Santana's rep, who said, "Johan denied the charges and was never charged with anything. As far as the law enforcement side of this goes, the case is closed."
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 He can't be guilty of anything, because he's a Met.Right?
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 There goes my plan for a Johan-based Messianic faith.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 so this woman just hung out afterwards and watching him play tennis?
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Ceetar wrote:so this woman just hung out afterwards and watching him play tennis?With a cum shot on her thigh, not allowed at Wimbledon by the way.
Chad ochoseis Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 "There was not enough evidence to prove lack of consent, the alleged victim's statement is not consistent with other witnesses." Other witnesses?!?!?It's not good that Johan threw a change-up to someone other than his wife, but he's not the first to have done that. As far as the rest of the story, anyone can accuse anyone of anything. I'll believe it when there's proof.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 metirish wrote:Ceetar wrote:so this woman just hung out afterwards and watching him play tennis?With a cum shot on her thigh, not allowed at Wimbledon by the way.Well, not if your doubles partner's eaten any asparagus, it's not.Otherwise...
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 metirish wrote:Ceetar wrote:so this woman just hung out afterwards and watching him play tennis?With a cum shot on her thigh, not allowed at Wimbledon by the way.Why, she's still wearing white isn't she?
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 That's really out of line, even for here.---I know professional athletes are often targets for these types of allegations but I don't know what to say here. If true, I'd endorse his immediate release. If false, no big deal. Incredibly frustrating to not know the truth on this one.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Gwreck wrote:That's really out of line, even for here.---I know professional athletes are often targets for these types of allegations but I don't know what to say here. If true, I'd endorse his immediate release. If false, no big deal. Incredibly frustrating to not know the truth on this one.The truth is she's a liar (witnesses disagree with the events as she told them). Why should I operate under anything but innocent until proven guilty?
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Gwreck wrote:That's really out of line, even for here.---I know professional athletes are often targets for these types of allegations but I don't know what to say here. If true, I'd endorse his immediate release. If false, no big deal. Incredibly frustrating to not know the truth on this one.The allegations seem to have been pretty thoroughly examined, and found wanting.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Though an unproveable case hardly makes a liar out of the accuser.It rather leaves us with unortunate ambiguity.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 So he jerked off on a babes leg while out golfing.Whats the big deal? I do it all the time.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0623_sheriff_TMZ_WM.pdf
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Ceetar wrote:so this woman just hung out afterwards and watching him play tennis?Unless she was dragging a police officer or a security guard with her to the tennis court, that makes it kind of hard to convince anybody of a lack of consent.Which does not in any way, shape, or form exonerate Johan's behavior.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Thoughts:1. Golf courses are pretty public. If she really didn't want this to happen, it seems it would have been pretty easy to call for help.2. There were other witnesses, and the story doesn't seem to hold up.3. She watched him play tennis. I mean, come on.4. Pretty shitty thing for Johan to do.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Edgy DC wrote:http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0623_sheriff_TMZ_WM.pdfAfter looking at the sheriff's name, it is obvious that this document has been doctored.
Guest Number 6 Guests Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Centerfield wrote:1. Golf courses are pretty public. If she really didn't want this to happen, it seems it would have been pretty easy to call for help.Not her responsibility. A lot of things can be going through the mind of a victim of attempted rape/sexual battery, and it's easy to believe that some of them would interfere with her inclination to attract other people to the scene.Centerfield wrote:3. She watched him play tennis. I mean, come on.Could be shock. Or fear. Not uncommon behavior for a victim, especially for a female victim of a sexual attack.Not that I'm saying that she's telling the truth, or that I know anything about this at all. I just don't really agree with your logic. if you just stuck to #2 and #4, I'd be with you.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 All good points. I guess it's thick-headed of me to pretend to know what goes through the mind of a sexual assault victim.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 I can attest to the fact that golfing makes one horny.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 �I am aware of this situation,� Santana said Wednesday, reading from a statement before the Mets� game against the Detroit Tigers. �What I can tell you is that the police investigated these claims last year, and I was never charged with anything, and the case is closed. Unfortunately, at this time, that�s all I can say, and I�ll have no further comments.�
Guest Number 6 Guests Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Centerfield wrote:All good points. I guess it's thick-headed of me to pretend to know what goes through the mind of a sexual assault victim.And I don't mean to imply that I know, either. I know a couple of people who have been through something similar, and their reactions at the time and in the aftermath were as different as they could possibly have been.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Gwreck wrote:�I am aware of this situation,� Santana said Wednesday, reading from a statement before the Mets� game against the Detroit Tigers. �What I can tell you is that the police investigated these claims last year, and I was never charged with anything, and the case is closed. Unfortunately, at this time, that�s all I can say, and I�ll have no further comments.�So this is some shmoe just tryin to dig up some bad stuff about the Mets.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Ashie62 wrote:Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it.If you were a man you would understand.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 metirish wrote:Ashie62 wrote:Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it.If you were a man you would understand.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it.If you were a man you would understand.I was gonna respond : just ask a woman.But that's not funny so I put that back in my pocket.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 metirish wrote:Ashie62 wrote:Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it.If you were a man you would understand.Watch your mouth, who the hell do you think you are?
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