Johan, NO!

[Guest themetfairy]

Lisa Olson Defends Johan

[metirish]

Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it. If you were a man you would understand. Watch your mouth, who the hell do you think you are?

I couldn't resist , a meatball right down the pipe, not even Jason bay would miss it .

[Fman99]

Gwreck wrote: �I am aware of this situation,� Santana said Wednesday, reading from a statement before the Mets� game against the Detroit Tigers. �What I can tell you is that the police investigated these claims last year, and I was never charged with anything, and the case is closed. Unfortunately, at this time, that�s all I can say, and I�ll have no further comments.�

Wow, this totally reads like "Yeah, I did it, so what?" to me. No denial in that statement. He's like Al Gore, with a better changeup.

[Willets Point]

themetfairy wrote: Lisa Olson Defends Johan

Is this the same Lisa Olson who was harassed by the Patriots?

[dgwphotography]

Willets Point wrote: themetfairy wrote: Lisa Olson Defends Johan Is this the same Lisa Olson who was harassed by the Patriots?

Yes, the same Lisa Olson.

[Guest Edgy DC]

While i folow her point that it's not cool for TMZ to have broken this story, I'm not sure I 'm clear on her standard of what's cool and what's not cool.

[Chad ochoseis]

The Mets, no strangers to players accused of sleazy sexcapades

OK, beats me. I can think of Ambiorix Burgos (which was sleazy, but not a "sexcapade") and, if you want to stretch to recent scandals involving Mets of yesteryear, Art Shamsky's divorce looniness. Anything else this decade?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, she didn't limit it to this decade, but, well, Lo Duca.

I guess Anna Benson's antics could count in some books. And Mike Piazza's explicit non-gayness, if one is of a mind.

[Chad ochoseis]

I wouldn't count Anna Benson, and the Piazza-is-gay issue always seemed like a media creation.

If we all agree that LoDuca was never a Met, would that make it so?

Now that I think about it, there's also John Maine in a dress. OK, Lisa, you win.

[Frayed Knot]

Chad Ochoseis wrote: The Mets, no strangers to players accused of sleazy sexcapades OK, beats me. I can think of Ambiorix Burgos (which was sleazy, but not a "sexcapade") and, if you want to stretch to recent scandals involving Mets of yesteryear, Art Shamsky's divorce looniness. Anything else this decade?

She's probably harking back to the Port St Lucie sleaziness of the early '90s

[soupcan]

Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it. If you were a man you would understand. Watch your mouth, who the hell do you think you are?

Really...?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

soupcan wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it. If you were a man you would understand. Watch your mouth, who the hell do you think you are? Really...?

I was thinking the same.

[metirish]

yeah , no idea how to respond to that. I was taking the piss is all.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I like it better when our baseball discussions don't involve semen.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Prude!

[Zvon]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I like it better when our baseball discussions don't involve semen.

Yea, that always makes for a sticky situation.

[smg58]

Chad Ochoseis wrote: The Mets, no strangers to players accused of sleazy sexcapades OK, beats me. I can think of Ambiorix Burgos (which was sleazy, but not a "sexcapade") and, if you want to stretch to recent scandals involving Mets of yesteryear, Art Shamsky's divorce looniness. Anything else this decade?

I'll wager she was thinking that some of Steve Phillips' misadventures came out while he was still employed here.

[soupcan]

smg58 wrote: Chad Ochoseis wrote: The Mets, no strangers to players accused of sleazy sexcapades OK, beats me. I can think of Ambiorix Burgos (which was sleazy, but not a "sexcapade") and, if you want to stretch to recent scandals involving Mets of yesteryear, Art Shamsky's divorce looniness. Anything else this decade? I'll wager she was thinking that some of Steve Phillips' misadventures came out while he was still employed here.

She'd be right.

[Guest themetfairy]

But back to the accuser.

I cannot imagine a victim of sexual assault going immediately from an attack to go watch her attacker play tennis. It makes no sense to me, and makes me doubt her story.

[Guest themetfairy]

metirish wrote: yeah , no idea how to respond to that. I was taking the piss is all.

It was a good line Irish. I cracked up when I read it on the train last night.

[Benjamin Grimm]

She might have been sitting there, thinking about what happened, gathering her wits, trying to recover, wondering what to do next, etc.

If the accusations are true, then she might have been in a state of mild (or not-so-mild) shock, and sitting down, regardless of whether or not a tennis match was occurring, doesn't seem so unreasonable.

[Guest themetfairy]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: She might have been sitting there, thinking about what happened, gathering her wits, trying to recover, wondering what to do next, etc. If the accusations are true, then she might have been in a state of mild (or not-so-mild) shock, and sitting down, regardless of whether or not a tennis match was occurring, doesn't seem so unreasonable.

I see your point BG, but it just doesn't sit right with me. It goes totally against my instincts.

Even while trying to gather wits, recover, etc., I honestly can't imagine a woman who is not being held as a prisoner not putting physical distance between herself and an attacker in the case of an attack.

[Zvon]

Zvon wrote: Gwreck wrote: �I am aware of this situation,� Santana said Wednesday, reading from a statement before the Mets� game against the Detroit Tigers. �What I can tell you is that the police investigated these claims last year, and I was never charged with anything, and the case is closed. Unfortunately, at this time, that�s all I can say, and I�ll have no further comments.� So this is some shmoe just tryin to dig up some bad stuff about the Mets.

I hate quoting myself (actually I love it) but to me it comes back to the timing.
That this info see's the light of day now reeks of ulterior motives.
Intended to upset Santana himself, or the team....or both?
I dunno.
You decide.

I think if this woman wanted the truth out there and justice for her (feeling that she didn't get it then) ,
she would have done better to get up on her soapbox then.
Not now.

Case closed.

[metirish]

It certainly makes me look at Johan a bit differently , I can't help but think that he shot a load on her thigh and she wiped it off with her knickers , it's unseemly. Seaver wouldn't have done that.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Firstly, the motive was that TMZ is trying to position themselves and did some trashdigging.

Secondly, Johan may be the worst beast in the world, and guilty as sin here, but it's also possible (though I'm merely speculating) that that little DNA gift he left her was not acquired how she says it was.

My dad saw some rape-accusation shakedowns, including some involving celebrities, and they included some strange stuff.

[ashie62]

metirish wrote: metirish wrote: Why do men put themselves in these situatuions?? I don't get it. If you were a man you would understand. Watch your mouth, who the hell do you think you are? I couldn't resist , a meatball right down the pipe, not even Jason bay would miss it .

Sorry Irish, Ashie's #1 clouded my thinking yesterday.

[metirish]

No need for apologies , I take the piss but never with the intention of insulting or upsetting anyone.

[Guest Kong76]

The teacher says we're dumb
We're only having fun
You know we pissed on everyone
In the classroom

[Fman99]

Look, the important thing is that now I'm not the only person in the CPF who's talking about firing off a torpedo.