Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 TransMonk wrote:="Gwreck"]Too many.True. But the MLB network starts the first of the year and it's a WBC year.Should provide at least a little more interesting baseball fix than normal this winterI am looking forward to both of these.I wonder if my cable provider will be carrying the MLB Network.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 CarriageThe network has signed contracts with 36 cable and satellite carriers.[5] In a deal that may be copied by other sports league owned channels, MLB tied carriage of the MLB Network to the ability to carry the popular out of market MLB Extra Innings package. In return, cable and satellite providers were offered a minority share of the new network.I hope cablevision carry it.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Since I have DirecTV and the Extra Innings package, I'm pretty sure I'll get it.I have my doubts that it will have much worth watching, though. I suspect that there will be a bunch of studio shows with smiling airheads and shouting fools.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 21 World Series champions since the Mets last championship:- 4 were won by the Yankees- 4 were won by other teams in the NL East- 2 were won by inferior teams who beat the Mets in the postseasonThat's 10 out of 21 gut punches and off-seasons of misery. At least I have a world class sports and entertainment facility to look forward to.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Cable rate increases across the board for the New Year , if you have the bundle from cablevision then there will be no rate increase but for others it will be as much as 3.5 percent...http://www.chicagotribune.com/technology/sns-ap-cable-rates-rising,0,1130588.story
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Oh no you di'ent!This morning I wore my Mets cap to the local convenience store when I picked up my newspaper.As I was entering a guy held the door open for me. I said, "Thank you" and he shouted "Mets suck!"No class. I hope the Phillies go 0-162 next season.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 I think it's more likely we'll see the Rays in the series again in the next few years than it is that we'll see the Phillies.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 metsguyinmichigan wrote:I think it's more likely we'll see the Rays in the series again in the next few years than it is that we'll see the Phillies.Why would you say that? The only guy they might lose from their lineup is Burrell, and the only one from their rotation is Moyer. Both those guys are easily replaceable.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Yeah I think that too , it's got to be nice to know that you can pencil in David Price into the starting rotation next season. Obviously we have not seen much of him but wow he looks like a keeper.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 I'm afraid we'll be reckoning with the Phillies for at least a few more years.
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Benjamin Grimm wrote:I'm afraid we'll be reckoning with the Phillies for at least a few more years.No, the Phillies are afraid, because the Mets are going to be breaking their hearts for years to come.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Whose fans do we have it better off than from a strictly haven't-won-it-since perspective?Kansas City Royals (1985)Detroit Tigers (1984)Baltimore Orioles (1983)Pittsburgh Pirates (1979)Seattle Mariners (Never from 1977 on)Texas Rangers (Never from 1972 on)Milwaukee Brewers (Never from 1970 on)San Diego Padres (Never from 1969 on)Houston Astros (Never from 1962 on)San Francisco Giants (Never from 1958 on/1954 for the diehards, some of whom I know)Cleveland Indians (1948)Chicago Cubs (1908)Throw in fans of the Washington Nationals (2005), the Tampa Bay Rays (1998) and the Colorado Rockies (1993) among the never-wons who have come along in the wake of October 27, 1986.Let us now fan out around the country and taunt these losers so as to enhance our self-esteem.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 metsguyinmichigan wrote:I think it's more likely we'll see the Rays in the series again in the next few years than it is that we'll see the Phillies.I don't know, they're going to need a lot of guys in that bullpen to reproduce what they did this year plus they have a shaky closer situation. Oh, and the two richest teams in MLB are in their division.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 I like the idea of the Rays staying hungry and the Phils getting fat and happy.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Why the Phillies won't be as good next year:1. Injuries. In 2008, they had none, other than Geoff Jenkins. Four starters made 30+ starts, and the Blanton/Eaton combo had another 32. Bullpen healthy all year.Most of their key players are relatively young but having essentially zero major injuries is definitely a factor of luck as well.2. Players who overperformed in 2008:Werth, Dobbs, Lidge, Moyer, DurbinPlayers who underperformed:Ruiz (?)I wouldn't be shocked to see Werth have a good year as a full-time player in '09. But the rest of those players won't be better in '09.3. Ryan Howard's steady decline:2006: .313/.425/.6292007: .268/.392/.5842008: .251/.339/.5434. Plexiglass pinciple.
Farmer Ted Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Philly has an excuse now for two Gay Pride parades in the same year.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Farmer Ted wrote:Philly has an excuse now for two Gay Pride parades in the same year.Bullet of cool!
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Scratch what I said earlier.I hope they go 0-162 for the next three years.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 I can never understand what makes people riot during times of great happiness.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 themetfairy wrote:I can never understand what makes people riot during times of great happiness.Makes no sense to me either. I'm glad no New York championship has ever been "celebrated" that way.Did this start with the 1984 Tigers? That's the earliest example I can remember, anyway.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 I'll never forget what my idiot brother said to me when the Giants beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. My brother is in Boston - he's a film student at Emerson."Goddammit, I wanted to go out and look for riots!"
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 themetfairy wrote:I can never understand what makes people riot during times of great happiness.Dollars to doughnuts says they aren't fans, but are hooligans just looking for an excuse to act like miscreants.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Yeah - they're all class in Philly....
Willets Point Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 In Boston after the various championships of recent years most of the post-victory violence occurred in the student quarters. Not to blame students but it seems that some of their number and/or people who live near the colleges like to use victory celebrations as an excuse to get rowdy. I've also found the media likes to sensationalize the violence and make it sound like a riot when it's not. Obviously no amount of violence is acceptable but it need not be exaggerated either. I can't speak for Philly but I expect it may be a similar story.
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Willets Point wrote:In Boston after the various championships of recent years most of the post-victory violence occurred in the student quarters. Not to blame students but it seems that some of their number and/or people who live near the colleges like to use victory celebrations as an excuse to get rowdy. I've also found the media likes to sensationalize the violence and make it sound like a riot when it's not. Obviously no amount of violence is acceptable but it need not be exaggerated either. I can't speak for Philly but I expect it may be a similar story.Which is odd since NYC has a bunch of colleges in the city, hell Queens does have St. Johns for crying out loud, and you would think the media would lap up and over blow a minor "incident" around an NYC college. And I haven't really heard much during the 9 major NYC championships (the '86 Mets, the 4 Yankee ones, the three Giant championships and the '94 Rangers) that I've been aware of the outside world for. Something else is interesting, and I've asked this before but to no response. Was Game 7 of the 1986 World Series the last time a sea of humanity rushed the field for a baseball championship? I thought for sure that Philly's Phinest couldn't contain a few hundred yahoos from rushing the field. Granted MLB/FOX had the on-field trophies and awards set up, but still.
Guest cooby Guests Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Willets Point wrote:In Boston after the various championships of recent years most of the post-victory violence occurred in the student quarters. Not to blame students but it seems that some of their number and/or people who live near the colleges like to use victory celebrations as an excuse to get rowdy. I've also found the media likes to sensationalize the violence and make it sound like a riot when it's not. Obviously no amount of violence is acceptable but it need not be exaggerated either. I can't speak for Philly but I expect it may be a similar story.RIght you are Willets. My "son-in-law" made it to work and back on Market Street in downtown Philadelphia today. I can assure you that most of the city is still intact.
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