MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted September 26 Posted September 26 Eliot Maddox? But he may not have had enough Metly WAR to make the list. Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 26 Author Posted September 26 4 minutes ago, MFS62 said: Eliot Maddox? But he may not have had enough Metly WAR to make the list. Later Maddox has already been answered. He sadly came up short.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 26 Posted September 26 Marlon Byrd was a Ranger at some point. Did he put up enough WAR in his 4 months as a Met to make this list?
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted September 26 Posted September 26 If you include the familial continuity of franchises, Del Unser played for the Mets and the newly-born Washington Senators, later reborn as the Texas Rangers. Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 26 Author Posted September 26 4 hours ago, Gwreck said: Marlon Byrd was a Ranger at some point. Did he put up enough WAR in his 4 months as a Met to make this list? Marlon Byrd did indeed. Signed for a song while the Mets were operating on an austerity budget, after he had served his time for PED abuse, Marlon had a champion in Terry Collins, and Terry was no fool, squeezing 3.9 2013 bWAR out of Marlon. Gold star. And while I'm giving gold stars out, lest it be unwritten, to anybody who looks up these answers, while pretending to pull them out of back pocket, may you soil yourselves in public. 3 hours ago, Johnny Lunchbucket said: Wiggy Can anybody earn bWARs like a guy named Ty? I think NOT. But fortunately for the Wigginton family, Ty failed to sully his clan's good name by playing for the Rangers. 3 hours ago, MFS62 said: Todd Frazier Later 1 hour ago, Centerfield said: Todd Frazier. YES! YES, you fools! Todd Frazier and Todd Zeile ... ... both mostly played third. ... both batted righty. ... both had good power but weren't winning any homerun titles. ... both were largely associated with a single franchise the first half of their careers before becoming vagabonds in the second half. ... both were associated for the first half of their careers with franchises defined by their red-ness. ... both had two tenures with the Mets. ... both put up OPS+'s above 100 but under 110. ... both had powerful upper bodies but kind of rocked the Dad look in the middle. ... both married gymnasts. ... both answered to the name "Todd." TODD! Todd Frazier also had a subtle way of pimping his homers and a kinda-dumb/kinda-catchy nickname. He finishes just above the celebrated Lenny Randle Line. 46 minutes ago, MFS62 said: If you include the familial continuity of franchises, Del Unser played for the Mets and the newly-born Washington Senators, later reborn as the Texas Rangers. Later Delly is our final guy. Thanks to you all for your contributions. Many of you have great things to contribute to society. Those who may or may not have cheated, perhaps less so. TWENTY bWAR-RIEST METS WHO ALSO PLAYED FOR THE RANGERS Jacob deGrom 41.2 Carlos Beltrán 31.1 Jon Matlack 26.6 Brando Nimmo 26.0 Bud Harrelson 18.6 Rick Reed 16.4 R.A. Dickey 12.9 Lee Mazzilli 12.5 Max Scherzer 7.3 Rusty Staub 6.8 Asdrúbal Cabrera 6.7 Todd Frazier 5.1 Lenny Randle 5.0 Dillon Gee 4.9 Bartolo Colon 4.7 Kevin Elster 4.6 Roger McDowell 4.3 Marlon Byrd 3.9 Del Unser 3.6 Endy Chavez 3.1
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 26 Author Posted September 26 Here's the not necessarily harder but certainly trickier version of the same quiz. Name the twenty highest bWAR-earning RANGERS who also played for the Mets. And I will say it up front — if you cheat, may your favorite sport coat forever smell like monkey dung, but you won't be able to smell it yourself, and so every room you enter thinking you are making a splash will soon empty as sickened people look over their shoulders at you, with you utterly unable to understand what you have done to repulse SO many people. With that out of the way, give me your Rangers!
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 26 Posted September 26 And his fellow 2006 Met Darren Oliver
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 28 Author Posted September 28 On 9/26/2026 at 4:11 PM, Gwreck said: I bet Kenny Rogers is on this list. It seems nobody has taken you on this bet, nor negotiated stakes. And right they were, for to accept such a bet would make one the mayor of Fool City, for Kenny is the bWARriest Ranger of all Rangers to also have a tenure with the Mets, having had three (THREE!) prosperous (PROSPEROUS!) runs with the Texas team in his highly impressive career. Points for your wisdom and your quickness! On 9/26/2026 at 4:48 PM, Lefty Specialist said: And Nolan Ryan. No foolish bets were placed against Ryan, either. His entire Rangers run was after his 40th birthday (indeed, after his 41st), but he was still piling up bWAR and making the Mets look like knuckleads. Points! On 9/26/2026 at 4:51 PM, Benjamin Grimm said: Max Schrezer. It has been a storied career for Herr Scherzer, but it has only included 88 1/3 innings for Texas. That was enough opportunity for him to earn 1.3 bWAR, but that only qualifies him to tie for 44th on this list. No Scherzer soup for you! On 9/26/2026 at 6:05 PM, Centerfield said: Julio Franco. A true Texas great in his prime, a true Met placeholder in his elder years, Julio earned 20.2 bRanger bWAR, and that means you've pegged the #3 guy on our list! Puntos! On 9/26/2026 at 7:33 PM, Gwreck said: And his fellow 2006 Met Darren Oliver Way to remember tenure dates! bWAR is particularly miserly in assessing the value of situational relievers, but a smart man like you recalls that pre-Met Darren had two (TWO!) intrepid Ranger-runs as a starter qualifying for seventh on this list! Keep it up, folks! You're killing it! Kenny Rogers 31.2 bWAR Julio Franco 20.2 Nolan Ryan 15.2 Darren Oliver 9.3
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 28 Posted September 28 You give me too much credit as there is no way I remember Oliver having two different runs with Texas, and certainly not as a starter. I remember him a a starter with St. Louis (?). I was thinking of Oliver’s post-Mets tenure, when he was still an effective reliever for Anaheim and the Rangers (and I think he was on their WS teams in 2010/11). I did just realize there is an obvious answer missing here: our new-ish friend Marcus Semien.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 28 Author Posted September 28 3 minutes ago, Gwreck said: You give me too much credit as there is no way I remember Oliver having two different runs with Texas, and certainly not as a starter. I remember him a a starter with St. Louis (?). I was thinking of Oliver’s post-Mets tenure, when he was still an effective reliever for Anaheim and the Rangers (and I think he was on their WS teams in 2010/11). I did just realize there is an obvious answer missing here: our new-ish friend Marcus Semien. You would have been forgiven for putting the "-ish" after "friend," but you are crazy-correct. CRAZY-correct! That gets most of the low-hanging fruitcakes, but plenty of delicious RangerMets await! Kenny Rogers 31.2 bWAR Marcus Semien 21.1 Julio Franco 20.2 Nolan Ryan 15.2 Darren Oliver 9.3
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted September 28 Posted September 28 I bet there are some other names on both lists…like…Jacob deGrom?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 28 Author Posted September 28 12 minutes ago, Benjamin Grimm said: Jon Matlack Matlack is special in regard to these two quizzlets, in that he had a substantial enough career with both teams to rank high on both list. More typical is the guy who prospered with one organization and cameo'd with the other, but you got Matlack, and spelled is name correctly for good measure. GOOD FOR YOU! 8 minutes ago, Gwreck said: I bet there are some other names on both lists…like…Jacob deGrom? deGromeo, deGromeo, where art though, deGro.... oh there he is! Fifteenth! Kenny Rogers 31.2 bWAR Marcus Semien 21.1 Julio Franco 20.2 Nolan Ryan 15.2 Jon Matlack 12.4 Darren Oliver 9.3 Jacob deGrom 5.8
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted September 28 Posted September 28 The king of Smithtown, Frank Catalanotto.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 28 Posted September 28 Craig Biggio probably has a better claim to that title.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 28 Author Posted September 28 43 minutes ago, Benjamin Grimm said: How about Dock Ellis? How about Dock Ellis? Was he a crazy cat or what? As a Ranger, though, Dock was less than elite, garnering 2.8 bWAR, 28th among once and future Mets, but your commitment to disco-era Mets is noticed and held dear. 29 minutes ago, seawolf17 said: The king of Smithtown, Frank Catalanotto. I had not known there was a change in regents for Smithtonian subjects, but it is important for us all to have some Frank-ness, and this list has it right there tied at #11 where Frank Catalanotto (translation: big guy from Catalan) shows off his 6.9 Ranger bWARs. 28 minutes ago, Benjamin Grimm said: Craig Biggio probably has a better claim to that title. This thread features competing claims to a throne! I love this! 20 minutes ago, Gwreck said: Biggio went to Kings Park HS though FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Kenny Rogers 31.2 bWAR Marcus Semien 21.1 Julio Franco 20.2 Nolan Ryan 15.2 Jon Matlack 12.4 Darren Oliver 9.3 Frank Catalanotto 6.9 (tie) Jacob deGrom 5.8
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 28 Posted September 28 If not Dock Ellis, how about his colleague in medicine, Doc Medich?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 28 Author Posted September 28 3 minutes ago, Benjamin Grimm said: If not Dock Ellis, how about his colleague in medicine, Doc Medich? It's the loving commitment to disco-era Mets that define your work. Other players would do well to look closely at what you're bringing to the table. They'd also have done well to look at that slot where Frank Catalanotto is tied for 11th, because the guy he's tied with is ... Doc Medich!! Kenny Rogers 31.2 bWAR Marcus Semien 21.1 Julio Franco 20.2 Nolan Ryan 15.2 Jon Matlack 12.4 Darren Oliver 9.3 Frank Catalanotto 6.9 (tie) Doc Medich 6.9 (tie) Jacob deGrom 5.8
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted September 28 Posted September 28 Did Del Unser swing both ways? (eligible for both lists) Later
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted September 28 Author Posted September 28 1 hour ago, MFS62 said: Did Del Unser swing both ways? (eligible for both lists) Later All RangerMets are, indeed, eligible for both lists. Del is 17th in bWAR among all Rangers who played also for the Mets. Kenny Rogers 31.2 bWAR Marcus Semien 21.1 Julio Franco 20.2 Nolan Ryan 15.2 Jon Matlack 12.4 Darren Oliver 9.3 Frank Catalanotto 6.9 (tie) Doc Medich 6.9 (tie) Jacob deGrom 5.8 Del Unser 5.3
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted September 28 Posted September 28 I'm not sure if he spent enough time in Texas, but what about Lee Mazzilli?
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