Get ready for the shitshow

[nymr83]

Well, MLB wanted this and we didn't have to wait long - today's Braves/Red Sox game ended on a pitch clock violation - a strikeout when the batter wasn't "set" with 8 seconds left.



LOL

[metirish]

Well, MLB wanted this and we didn't have to wait long - today's Braves/Red Sox game ended on a pitch clock violation - a strikeout when the batter wasn't "set" with 8 seconds left. LOL

Wow

[metirish]

I expect to be still watching games at 10pm , this sucks

[nymr83]

I like the concept of a pitch clock, just not the part where it has an effect on the outcome of games. Perhaps instead of an in-game penalty they should just have fines. Every violation is a fine. At the end of the season, they collect and the fines money and divide it up amongst all the players, so overall player compensation isn't down and the guys who don't violate the clock too much actually end up ahead.

[Edgy MD]

I keep reading the title of this thread and thinking of it as the name of Hank Williams, Jr.'s new Monday Night Football theme song.

[metirish]

Relax , Troy

[stevejrogers]

Edgy MD wrote: I keep reading the title of this thread and thinking of it as the name of Hank Williams, Jr.'s new Monday Night Football theme song.

These new rules are making me feel so lonesome I could cry, and want to melt Mandfred's cold, cold heart!

[Frayed Knot]

=nymr83 post_id=118877 time=1677424113 user_id=54]
I like the concept of a pitch clock, just not the part where it has an effect on the outcome of games.

[stevejrogers]

Frayed Knot wrote: =nymr83 post_id=118877 time=1677424113 user_id=54] I like the concept of a pitch clock, just not the part where it has an effect on the outcome of games.

Making sure that it doesn't affect the outcome of the game is something that's entirely within the powers of the players.

And if they find themselves in a position where one ball or one strike is potentially game-altering then whoever is in the

box or on the rubber at that moment better make damn sure that they're aware of the situation.

[Frayed Knot]

Moral of the story: Don't be taking your pants off with the game, not to mention the season and the championship, still on the line.

iow, the prepared players and prepared teams will be at an advantage with these new rules. Wow, what a concept!

[metirish]

Nomar would have to really make a change

[TransMonk]

Frayed Knot wrote: Making sure that it doesn't affect the outcome of the game is something that's entirely within the powers of the players.

This. It was the first day. Now they know and I bet that dude never gets caught while in that situation again.



Plus, like the universal DH, the league has been telegraphing this move for YEARS. It's not like it's this is something they made up last week.



The players will learn. Game changing consequences will happen rarely, if ever. Games will be shorter and all will be fine.

[Lefty Specialist]

Yeah, having it happen in precisely the way it did was a HUGE lesson for players.



I also loved Scherzer's cat-and-mouse game getting the hitter to step out, then holding the ball for a long time as the batter gets more and more uncomfortable in the box.

[MFS62]

Lefty Specialist wrote: I also loved Scherzer's cat-and-mouse game getting the hitter to step out, then holding the ball for a long time as the batter gets more and more uncomfortable in the box.

"Wiley veteran."



Later

[Frayed Knot]

Max says he "Loves" the clock because it turns the pace-setting from the hitters over to the pitchers, particularly when/if the batter uses up his lone allowed step-out.

Edited February 27, 2023 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

I suppose there might be some pitchers for whom that's not true, but my sense is that those are probably the exceptions.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Looking at the box scores yesterday, I'm seeing mostly games around 2:30 and only one that went past 3 hours (a 14-14 tie that went "only" 3:16, given the 28 runs). After the first couple days of pitch clock violations that went viral, seems like the shitshow is calming a little?

[Edgy MD]

I might-a be a little crazy, but aren't spring games something like 20% faster in general anyhow?



Clearly, the clock will shorten game times. What's still up for discussion is how much of what is being cut is badness and how much is goodness.

[Frayed Knot]

Tim Kurkjian said yesterday (PTI) that, after spending an entire day at NYM camp followed by one at NYY camp, he heard much praise and not a single complaint from players on the new rules.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Edgy MD wrote: I might-a be a little crazy, but aren't spring games something like 20% faster in general anyhow? Clearly, the clock will shorten game times. What's still up for discussion is how much of what is being cut is badness and how much is goodness.

I don't know, I was wondering the same. Spring games always felt long to me, but a good long. I never wanted to get out of the sun and be anywhere else.

[Edgy MD]

Frayed Knot wrote: Tim Kurkjian said yesterday (PTI) that, after spending an entire day at NYM camp followed by one at NYY camp, he heard much praise and not a single complaint from players on the new rules.

I believe him, although that might depend on to which "new" rules he's referring.



Also, the stakes are mostly non-existent in spring training.

[Fman99]

It does seem to pick up the game pace.



ESPN features the clock prominently on the display, which is crud. I don't need to see it like it's the NCAA shot clock. But more weeknight games ending in the 9:30-9:40 range are OK by me.

[metsmarathon]

yeah, if my kids are more able to stay up to watch the game more often, instead of maybe the first inning if we're lucky, then the pitch clock will be more than worth it.



the one thing i'm actually a bit worried about is if the games go quicker, will there be enough time to actually go get concessions?

[Edgy MD]

Believe me, peoples are already complaining about that.



I'm sure they'll come up with ways to pad the game if things are coming in under the target.

[kcmets]

It would be kind of amusing if they get hit with a bite on the boo boo

and notice a drop in concession revenue.



I read somewhere that next year they want to experiment with three

ghost runners,, four outs and maybe three balls is a walk in the minors.



(I totally made that last part up)

[MFS62]

four outs and maybe three balls is a walk in the minors.

Having three balls certainly would slow a player down.

BA DA BING!

Later

[Frayed Knot]

They haven't changed the between innings time nor the length of each pitching change (sigh).

Concession business will be just fine.

[Edgy MD]

Well, thse things are shorter in the spring in general.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Today on the shitshow... Nats would go on to score 8(!!!) in the top of the 3rd.

[A Boy Named Seo]

But also this