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I think we're all in agreement that David Wright falls well short of Hall consideration, yes. Doesn't mean we have to be happy about it, but I'd think we all agree.


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Unpopular opinion here: David Wright is not a Hall of Famer.

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=nymr83 post_id=85244 time=1643346483 user_id=54]
Unpopular opinion here: David Wright is not a Hall of Famer.

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There's no stadium in the league that'll help a guy's game shine if he can't stay on the field. I'm more inclined to blame Fred Wilpon for hiring a jive-ass reality TV weight training guru.



But I like Wright and I know he thinks about me a lot, so he's got a slot in my Hall of Fame, whatever the BBWAA and Cooperstown says.


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you would neeed to be a _really big_ "big hall" kind of voter to vote for david, or just like voting for nice guys with good but not all-time great careers, to vote for david. i can see him getting a few votes that way. but not a lot. given the choice, i would not give him one of my votes as he falls short of nearly any criterion i could conjure up. still makes me sad. he was on the right track, until he wasn't, and its a shame.



if joey bats gets more votes than david, i'll be annoyed, that's for dang sure. wright has a much better career and peak WAR, with a higher career OPS to boot. he just doesn't have the spicy home runs.



as much as it pains me to say, and moreso even than it pains me to say that david is not.... chase utley should get in. easily. looking at his JAWS score, he's as good a candidate as beltran, and but a skinny whisker behind rolen and helton. (i compare JAWS to the average JAWS of hall of famers at that position). utley is basically average hall-of-fame-2b, just as beltran is average CF.



ped cheat arod sits at 164%, beltre at 128%, and joe mauer at 107%.



i was also playing around with fangraphs' war graphs feature. basically, if you look at the career war accumulation for them all, ventura, olerud, and hernandez all have nearly identical graphs ending at basically the same place, slight edge to keith. also, interestingly, wright and longoria are also nearly exact copies. i tried linking to those graphs, but cannot get it figured out. boo.


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David Wright was always one of my favorite Mets. He had a very solid career through the age of 30. Had injuries not completely derailed his career, he may have at least been in the conversation for HOF consideration with another 5-6 good years. Still a solid player, that represented the Mets and himself admirably. He should be in the Mets HOF.


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Jerry Koosman got four votes in his one year on the Hall of Fame ballot. But there were https://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof_1991.shtml45 dudes on the ballot that year, as opposed to 30 this year, despite baseball having expanded by four teams in the interim.



I think that by pre-eliminating a lot of guys on the back end of the ballot, they think they're doing a service by not forcing the voter to consider the legacies of a bunch of Joe Sambitos and Scott Servaises, but I think the smaller ballot, where virtually everybody has a pretty decent case, inadvertently encourages the voter to be more miserly with his or her votes.



If so, that's bad news for the big Hall advocates.


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