Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 As I suspected was most likely, timing was the major factor in the McCann signing.We had "great conversations" [with Realmuto's agents] Alderson said on Monday's Zoom call to introduce new GM Jared Porter ... “more than anything else, this was a timing issue for us,'' “We have a number of needs. We can afford to wait to fill some of them. We can't afford to wait to fill all of them.”https://nypost.com/2020/12/14/this-is-what-derailed-mets-pursuit-of-j-t-realmuto/https://nypost.com/2020/12/14/this-is-what-derailed-mets-pursuit-of-j-t-realmuto/
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 makes sense. you dont want to wait out Realmuto and Springer and Bauer and watch everyone else sign.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 There was probably quite a dropoff to the third best available catcher.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 Probably Tyler Flowers, so ... yeah, probably so.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 And in two to three years, Alvarez and/or Regnault will be here and McCann can, as Yogi Berra once said about Bill Dickey, "Learn them his experience".Later
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 Let me be in the minority to say I'm kinda psyched on McCann. His body of work over the last two seasons (almost 600 PAs) has been very good. The advanced metrics seem to suggest he's figured something out both at the dish and behind it. StatCast numbers are sexy, even. I don't think Realmuto will be light years ahead of him for the next couple of years, and as McCann and Realmuto both devolve into old, crumbling catchers, we'll have the cheaper one on a shorter contract, which will make him easier to deal with.I know moneymoneymoney-it-doesn't-matter, but the Mets were at about https://theathletic.com/2245239/2020/12/08/mets-winter-meetings-free-agency-jt-realmuto/$153M and the CBT for 2021 is $210M. McCann adds ~$10M to that, so ~$163M, leaving $47M before they hit the threshold. Plenty to play with, and going over for the first year wouldn't hurt the Mets or Cohen at all. But the dream sweep of Springer/Bauer surely puts them over and then "hi, welcome back, Cano" in 2022 and a new CBA (with potentially new tax penalties) makes for what could be some gnarly financial books. Sure, Cohen can afford it, but I'm also sure he doesn't want to give away truckloads of money in taxes if thinks he can win at the top of the CBT threshold and invest elsewhere. /ducks
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 #intangiblesHe's got it all, I tell ya
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 Frayed Knot wrote:As I suspected was most likely, timing was the major factor in the McCann signing.We had "great conversations" [with Realmuto's agents] Alderson said on Monday's Zoom call to introduce new GM Jared Porter ... “more than anything else, this was a timing issue for us,'' “We have a number of needs. We can afford to wait to fill some of them. We can't afford to wait to fill all of them.”https://nypost.com/2020/12/14/this-is-what-derailed-mets-pursuit-of-j-t-realmuto/https://nypost.com/2020/12/14/this-is-what-derailed-mets-pursuit-of-j-t-realmuto/The Mets say "timing" but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So Maybe Realmuto's camp could, just the same, complain about "timing" and the Mets not coming around to Realmuto's number. Or maybe this negotiation had nothing to do with "timing" and everything to do with the Cohen Mets wanting to make a statement and establish that they're not simply going to pay everybody's "ransom" even though they could easily do so.We might never really know why the Mets signed McCann instead of Realmuto. Grain of salt on this press release.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 I would have thought the White Sox more likely to sign McCann and shop Grandal.
Marshmallowmilkshake Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 I like this guy so far!https://scontent.fdet1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131390635_10157932606663481_4054295566688151247_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=Jf-xWO-yjikAX9rfLDr&_nc_ht=scontent.fdet1-2.fna&oh=91b476e20c836ee1751fda5ebaa6d631&oe=6006039F>
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 The kids call him Jimmy the SaintPlus a little https://nypost.com/2020/12/19/mets-james-mccann-has-amazing-rags-to-riches-tale/James McCann history for ya.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Yeah the Bible verse in his signature gives us an idea what we're in for. He's gonna make Nimmo look like an atheist.Mark 10:27 And Jesus, looking upon them, said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”What he should say is "With more money than God, all things are possible."If anyone's offended by the blasphemy, you can delete this. But I have a very low tolerance for God-botherers.
Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 I like that he's excited to wear the colors and help them win. Good on him. Bring us those WORLD SERIES TITTIES or whatever he said.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Lefty Specialist wrote:Yeah the Bible verse in his signature gives us an idea what we're in for. He's gonna make Nimmo look like an atheist.Mark 10:27 And Jesus, looking upon them, said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible.”What he should say is "With more money than God, all things are possible."If anyone's offended by the blasphemy, you can delete this. But I have a very low tolerance for God-botherers.I'm not Christian and don't know the 'new testament' from a hole in the wall so maybe i'm missing something - is there something particularly offensive about that quote? like is that one of the ones used to justify hating gay people? if not, wtf is your issue?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 I'm not Christian and don't know the 'new testament' from a hole in the wall so maybe i'm missing something - is there something particularly offensive about that quote? like is that one of the ones used to justify hating gay people? if not, wtf is your issue?Incredible. See if you can guess which is which. (Nobody help him.)[FIMG=300]https://www.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.cam.ac.uk/files/styles/content-885x432/public/news/news/codexz.jpg?itok=VVF-iB5q[/FIMG] [fimg=195]https://www.do-it-yourself-help.com/images/small-wall-hole.jpg[/fimg]
Johnny Lunchbucket Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2020 Author Posted December 20, 2020 I'm just hoping he's better than Brian Schneider, who said all the right things at his arrival, had an even better rep for staff-handling, runner-throwing-outing, and pitch-framing.Oh yes I said staff handling
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2020 Posted December 20, 2020 Johnny Lunchbucket wrote:Oh yes I said staff handlingIf we're going biblical, here's one from The Book of Psalms:"thy rod and thy staff-handling -- they comfort me"
bmfc1 Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 I looked up McCann and Nido on Fangraphs. As suggested elsewhere, McCann's D is decent, with 4.8 defensive WAR.https://www.fangraphs.com/players/james-mccann/12859/stats?position=Chttps://www.fangraphs.com/players/james-mccann/12859/stats?position=CThe Mets snapped him up right quick so they wouldn't lose out on a FA C (perhaps they heard that Realmuto didn't want to be a Met or they wanted to save $ for Springer/Bauer or they wanted to make an early splash or they wanted to set the market or Sandy is bad at his job) and if they didn't get McCann they didn't want to be stuck with Nido. Except, per these numbers, they just paid much, much more for someone similar to Nido:https://www.fangraphs.com/players/tomas-nido/13755/stats?position=Chttps://www.fangraphs.com/players/tomas-nido/13755/stats?position=CMcCann: Offense -12.1, Defense + 4.8, Overall +0.5Nido: Offense -8, Defense +11.4, Overall +0.8
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted September 19, 2021 Posted September 19, 2021 Baseball reference gives Nido a +0.8 dWAR.Later
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