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Awesome. A sit-down/shut-up closing job.



I mean, hell-- if only we had somebody to pitch like that with the game on the line in the 8th!


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Awesome. A sit-down/shut-up closing job.



I mean, hell-- if only we had somebody to pitch like that with the game on the line in the 8th!

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"We're not going to have him come in, get one out, and have nobody to pitch the ninth. I mean, we're not going to have him come in, get one out, and sit down, and come out and get three more outs. He's here to get three outs, that's it."



I may be paraphrasing a little, or else my hearing may be a little off, due to the aneurysm I'm currently experiencing.


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You know, if he got the last out in the eighth, and the first two outs in the ninth, I'd be OK with that too.


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Mickey keeps talking about this, and he keeps sounding dumber. Experience has somehow made him dumber.


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"We're not going to have him come in, get one out, and have nobody to pitch the ninth. I mean, we're not going to have him come in, get one out, and sit down, and come out and get three more outs. He's here to get three outs, that's it."



I may be paraphrasing a little, or else my hearing may be a little off, due to the aneurysm I'm currently experiencing.


Even if he was incapable of sitting down for 20 minutes and then getting back up - which I doubt - i'd rather he comes in maybe after the Knapp walk, definitely after the McCutchen walk. that is going to be a bigger spot than the 9th.



maybe there is some argument to be made against over-use in April against the Twins? But not the Phillies.


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"We're not going to have him come in, get one out, and have nobody to pitch the ninth. I mean, we're not going to have him come in, get one out, and sit down, and come out and get three more outs. He's here to get three outs, that's it."



I may be paraphrasing a little, or else my hearing may be a little off, due to the aneurysm I'm currently experiencing.


I woke up desperately wanting to hear Mickey speak on this. Where'd you catch it? I didn't see it on SNY.


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he doubled-down and tripled-down in the post-game and Brodie then did the same - and the fucking "we will make the playoffs" entitlement, no you wont if you arent willing to make the most efficient use of your bullpen for winning games this year.


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So this was the position player lineup at the end of the game last night:



Ramos, c

Smith, 1b

Cano, 2b

McNeil, 3b

Rosario, ss

Nimmo, lf

Lagares, cf

Conforto, rf



The Mets had burned all of their position players. I used to love wars of attrition, because Davy Johnson was great at them, but back then, a game became a war of attrition in the 14th or 15th inning. Now, if a game goes 10 or 11 innings, both managers have their backs to the wall, with all their pinch hitters and most of their bullpen burned.



Thus it was in the top of the 10th last night. After the Mets had burned Travis d'Arnaud, their last pinch-hitter, they had Smith up at the plate. After taking strike three to end the inning, Smitty angrily spiked his helmet.



Now, I love just about everything Dom has brought to the table this season, and it makes me want to go out and buy myself a CPAP mask. And I agree that the pitch looked low. But that spike was dumb, and it probably should have been an instant ejection. Lance Barksdale, perhaps seeing instant regret in Smith's eyes, or perhaps not wanting to impetuously throw the game to the Phils by leaving the Mets a man short, spared him.



My question: If Smith gets tossed there, what defensive alignment do you come out with the next inning? You have four available starting pitchers to put into the game. Jason Vargas is probably the best hitter, and the least precious as an asset. Jacob deGrom is probably the best athlete, and best equipped to acquit himself on defense, but the most precious as an asset. Steven Matz is probably a pretty decent compromise of the two, in the hitting sense, in the fielding sense, in the preciousness sense. An Zach Wheeler probably looks the most like a Major League first-baseman.



So who do you pick? And once you pick him, where do you put him? Almost always, if you're forced to put pitcher on defense, it's a corner outfield spot for him. But I wonder why nobody ever tries to sneak a pitcher in at first, where he does what he's generally asked to do on defense — field grounders and cover first.



So do you put your pitcher on one of the corners and move Conforto or Nimmo to first? Do you put him at first himself? Do you go crazy and put him at third, and maybe move McNeilio to second, and Canó to first?



A whole lot of bad options there. You see what gift Barksdale gave us with his mercy.


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A Boy Named Seo wrote:


"We're not going to have him come in, get one out, and have nobody to pitch the ninth. I mean, we're not going to have him come in, get one out, and sit down, and come out and get three more outs. He's here to get three outs, that's it."



I may be paraphrasing a little, or else my hearing may be a little off, due to the aneurysm I'm currently experiencing.


I woke up desperately wanting to hear Mickey speak on this. Where'd you catch it? I didn't see it on SNY.


It was SNY, during the post game show.


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