Hey, Nineteen:Jacob deGrom

[Edgy MD]

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Listen, you just don't improve on a year like last year. You can kill yourself trying, but when you ask Dwight Gooden and Tom Seaver and R.A. Dickey, they'll tell you it just doesn't shake out that way. I mean, yeah, I had lousy luck in run support. The worst. But the truth is that I had to have had some luck on the other end. I mean, that batting average with runners in scoring position? I try to be a bulldog, but things have to shake out the right way for that to happen.



So, you try and do the same, be consistent, stay healthy and accept the consequences. I could pitch just as well and have an ERA a half run or more higher. Then again, I could get some support and win 24 games, you know?



Stay healthy, stay positive, be consistent, don't get caught up in the contract thing, and don't self-destruct like Harvey. Or Gooden for that matter. Jesus.



How's it gonna shake out this time?

[smg58]

Edgy MD wrote: I could pitch just as well and have an ERA a half run or more higher. Then again, I could get some support and win 24 games, you know?

24 might be too optimistic, but 20 wins with a 2.30 ERA would qualify as a reasonable regression on both fronts.

[Centerfield]

35 wins. 1.32 ERA. 0.578 WHIP.



Write that shit down.

[dgwphotography]

9-3, 2.15 ERA, Tommy John Surgery in July.

[nymr83]

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9-3, 2.15 ERA, Tommy John Surgery in July.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

17-8, 3.00, 250-50 in 200 IP

[Lefty Specialist]

Will not be better than 2018, because that's not possible. 15-9, 3.00.

[smg58]

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9-3, 2.15 ERA, Tommy John Surgery in July.

[MFS62]

16-6, 2.04 and more than a few gut wrenching no decisions.

Later

[nymr83]

As for a prediction, I'll say 190 innings (30 starts) of 1.00 WHIP, ERA around 2.50

[G-Fafif]

Will clinch Met of the Decade honors. Pretty much already has.

[batmagadanleadoff]

He's the reigning Cy Young award winner. He received Cy Young award votes in three of the last four seasons. And five seasons ago, he won the Rookie of the Year award. Five seasons of excellence, all as a starting pitcher. You'd think he'd have about 80 wins by now, maybe even 100. Or near 100. Not even close



55. 55 lifetime wins for all of that.

[seawolf17]

6-17, 2.13 ERA.



Or 17-6, 2.13 ERA.



There's no in between.

[dgwphotography]

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=nymr83 post_id=3504 time=1551295019 user_id=54]
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9-3, 2.15 ERA, Tommy John Surgery in July.

[smg58]

=G-Fafif post_id=3536 time=1551331088 user_id=55]
Will clinch Met of the Decade honors. Pretty much already has.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Schaefer Top Twenty, 2010 through 2018

[th]Player[/th]	[th]Total Points[/th]
	David Wright		488.57
	Jacob deGrom		453.12
	Lucas Duda		408.33
	Daniel Murphy		393.90
	Jon Niese		379.93
	Jose Reyes		318.81
	Curtis Granderson		291.70
	Matt Harvey		267.27
	R. A. Dickey		261.29
	Wilmer Flores		260.49
	Ike Davis		244.55
	Noah Syndergaard		243.32
	Bartolo Colon		240.67
	Michael Conforto		234.87
	Dillon Gee		232.76
	Zack Wheeler		224.72
	Ruben Tejada		217.01
	Juan Lagares		209.30
	Yoenis Cespedes		208.43
	Asdrubal Cabrera		197.31

[Frayed Knot]

And with the CPF Mets Ranking for 2018 not yet done (we should probably get around to that pretty soon, eh?) the top 20 standings for 2010-2017 with an estimate for 2018 included (which put JdG over the top):

	deGrom
	Wright
	Murphy
	Duda
	Niese
	Granderson
	Cespedes
	Syndergaard
	Reyes
	Dickey
	Harvey
	Conforto
	Wheeler
	Flores
	Cabrera
	Familia
	Colon
	Lagares
	Gee
	Tejada

[Benjamin Grimm]

The two lists have 19 of 20 players in common. The differences are that the Schaefer list includes Ike Davis while the Rankings list has Jeurys Familia.



The lists may diverge a bit more once the final season of the decade is complete. Cabrera is more vulnerable on the Schaefer list but Gee and Tejada, for example, are more secure.



And yes, I do expect Schaefer to continue in 2019. Since it's almost completely automated, I might as well keep doing it despite the growing apathy.

[kcmets]

Third in Cy votes in 2019. I can't tell you will be second but will tell

you who is first when we get to the S's.

[Benjamin Grimm]

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[Guest 41Forever]

Gets his long-term extension done before the team heads north. Starts All-Star Game.

[G-Fafif]

Gary keeps pushing Jake for another Cy, which I would of course welcome but am not in the least bit feeling. Maybe I'm comparing him more to Jake 2018 than his 2019 contemporaries.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=G-Fafif post_id=20603 time=1567450386 user_id=55]
Gary keeps pushing Jake for another Cy, which I would of course welcome but am not in the least bit feeling. Maybe I'm comparing him more to Jake 2018 than his 2019 contemporaries.

[G-Fafif]

DeGrom effectively came from behind last year, which, like his scant win total, made the award all the more remarkable. Scherzer was the consensus favorite at midseason. Tough to argue with a 1.70 ERA.



Jake is at that level, I'd think, where voters might look at nobody being the obvious choice and deciding you can't go wrong with this guy.

[Frayed Knot]

Ryu's problems lately (several bad games in a row + now some IL time) have opened this race up and JdG has certainly been creeping more into the race with every start.

Scherzer's IL time is a factor too; he'll wind up with significantly fewer starts, IP, etc.

[Edgy MD]

Noah Syndergaard this afternoon entered the top 20 in all-time wins for Mets 'pitchers.



I think when a player passes that tub full of long-time relievers at the back end is the day a pitcher becomes a man.



Career Mets Wins as Credited to Pitchers



1) Tom Seaver (1967–1977, 1983): 198

2) Dwight Gooden (1984–1994): 157

3) Jerry Koosman (1967–1978): 140

4) Ron Darling (1983–1991): 99

5) Sid Fernandez (1984–1993): 98

6) Al Leiter (1998–2004): 95

7) Jon Matlack (1971–1977): 82

8) David Cone (1987–1992, 2003): 81

9) Bobby Jones (1993–2000): 74

10) Steve Trachsel (2001–2006): 66

Jacob deGrom (2014–2019): 64.46

=#0000FF]11) Jacob deGrom (2014–2019): 63

t-12) Jon Niese (2008–2015, 2016): 61

t-12) Tom Glavine (2003–2007): 61

t-14) Rick Reed (1997–2001): 59

t-14) Craig Swan (1973–1984): 59

16) Bob Ojeda (1986–1990): 51

17) Mike Pelfrey (2006–2012): 50

Noah Syndergaard (2015–2019): 48.82

18) John Franco (1990–2001, 2003–2004): 48

t-19) Jesse Orosco (1979, 1981–1987): 47

t-19) Tug McGraw (1965–1967, 1969–1974): 47

=#0000FF]t-19) Noah Syndergaard (2015–2019): 47

[batmagadanleadoff]

DeGrom effectively came from behind last year, which, like his scant win total, made the award all the more remarkable. Scherzer was the consensus favorite at midseason. Tough to argue with a 1.70 ERA. Jake is at that level, I'd think, where voters might look at nobody being the obvious choice and deciding you can't go wrong with this guy.

Don't look now but Jacob deGrom, right now, has the highest score among NL pitchers on Tom Tango's Cy Young award predictor. And why do they say don't look now when they really mean "look now"?



The Cy Young case for Jake deGrom:



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[G-Fafif]

Tim Britton presents astounding data on The Athletic today on how nearly every one of his teammates literally does his worst when deGrom is on the mound. (If you subscribe, read it; if you don't subscribe and can swing it, subscribe -- over a year's time, it's tantamount to buying the paper every day in olden days.)

[bmfc1]

G-Fafif is correct about the value of The Athletic. Here is a link to subscribe:

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[batmagadanleadoff]

Tim Britton presents astounding data on The Athletic today on how nearly every one of his teammates literally does his worst when deGrom is on the mound. (If you subscribe, read it; if you don't subscribe and can swing it, subscribe -- over a year's time, it's tantamount to buying the paper every day in olden days.)

By "olden days", I hope you mean like when a paper used to cost 10 cents. I've been on the fence about subscribing to The Athletic for a while now. I've already come across too many Athletic articles on the web that I wanted to read but couldn't because I'm not a subscriber. Your post may have pushed me over that fence.