Zvon

cooby wrote: So maybe he gets it even if the Mets have a lead when he goes in. Confusing in a way. I do think he would. I believe then its up to the discretion official scorer who is credited with the win, and if Pedro is the only other pitcher to pitch in that game, he would have to get the win. Wouldnt he?lol. Im a lil confused myself. I dont think his win totals would plummet though. If he pitched well for those last 7 innings (and the Mets won the game).

Edgy DC wrote: You may want to order it online. I suspect that Borders won't be carrying it. You may be right edge, tho Im continually amazed at what they do carry at this Borders by me. If its not in stock Ill try ordering it at Borders first. I only buy online when theres no other way.

Ha. Thats is both funny and interesting. If Pedro came in for the third, and stayed in until the game was over, wouldnt he be eligible for the win/loss by MLB rules? He wont get a game started stat, this I realize.

Edgy DC wrote: Actually, my concern here is the rotation, and number four should have read "Who, if anybody will be acquired and added to the rotation?" mmmmmm. Im all for JDs fantasy Zito move. But that would change the entire scheme of things. Then Heilman goes back to collecting splinters in his buttocks.

1) Who winds up in the rotation? Martinez, Glavine, Benson, Seo, Heilman 2) Who (among the remainders of the seven) winds up in the bullpen? Zambrano 3) Who winds up being traded? Trachsel 4) Who, if anybody will be acquired and added to the pen? All that above is wishful thinking. This question, Id have to do some reseach for an answer.

Edgy DC wrote: Why not? kool. That^ is excellent work, whoever did it.

well, I didnt get it for Christmas (it was a late wish) but this book is number one on my list next time I get to Borders.

old original jb wrote: But since Baez says he wants to close,............. Ive read alot about the possible acquasition of Baez and this is the only place Ive read this. Can anyone confirm this statement? Because if hes going to be forced into a set up role he doesnt want, I dont even understand why we should be persuing him at all.

i think when youve paid a certain amount of dues to a team, you should boo when you feel the need. ^ I dont see how this kid could have paid those dues yet ^

="ScarletKnight41"]LOL - I see the amendment. There's nothing like a good ear-pulling to get someone to come around Shouldnt be to hard. We all are known for our big ears. me, 8 months old^

i added to the post above^... lol.

ScarletKnight41 wrote: Zvon - when are you going to recruit your brothers to sign up here? One of em views the board from time to time, probly due to my insistance. The comment I hear most is " Im not into message boards." All of em (3) are a lot more busier than I. Ill give em that. But someday I will drag all three in by the ear.

I was talkin to my brothers about this. I say getting Baez would be a good thing. But not if it costs either Heilman or Seo. They say Baez is worth either of those arms easy. Im using the logic that Heilman will be a middleman, and Seo in the starting rotation. I know somethings gotta be done about the starting situation, but I hope Seo and Benson are still around when the dust settles. I like that Heilman has spoken up about his position on the matter, but that may make him the odd man out. Id hate to see him go. No one seems to want Tracshel though. What about Zambrano? (hey, there could be a song there^ ;^) ) Itll be interesting to see how the Mets settle this dilemma. At one point last season I was calling for Heilman to be put in the rotation and Ishii to be put in the pen. But they wanted that left arm in there. If the Mets could move Trax and Zambi and put Heilman in the rotation, than Baez is a worthwhile acquisition. I dont see that happening. Would be nice to have a 1,2,3 punch of Heilman-Baez-Wagner at games end, if the need be. But is Baez willing to be a set-up man? I would think that this could depreciate his worth if/when he walks. And soooooo many teams need a closer. Cripes, he had more saves than Wags last year. The Mets have what they need, and now they should start unloading what the dont need in the order of how much they dont need it. If they can get Baez for less and he will play the set-up role, kool beans. If not, no biggy. As far as the Manny talk, Ill believe that b.s. when I actually see it go down. And I will be very surprised and will have loads to say then.

Booing is a good thing and should be a form of expression for a fan. As opposed to, say,.....yelling at Heilman and calling him Hitler. Im an even keel fan. If I really feel moved to do it, whether the reason may be justified or not, Ill boo. Sometimes Ill boo for a laugh. But I reserve my boo's for when I really feel like expressing that sentiment, and I dont boo-along ( jump on any boo wagon). One of the things that gets me is most times when you see a loud mouth insult whining booer in the section around you, doin his/her thing when he/she feels its appropriate, that same person does not seem to be cheering after the home team smacks one out or something really good happens. That should tell ya something. Speaks volumes about that persons demeanor.

Admins... Would it be acceptable to start a MET picture of the week thread up in the baseball section? I can assure you I would keep it bumped.

If anyone has a good pic of Bell in a Met uni, Id appreciate it. I had to photoshop this one onto him. ....not my best work,lol.

Frayed Knot wrote: .... before blending the two list like you're fanning a deck of cards together. Lol. Well put. I cant argue. Your list explaination is solid and airtight. If i ever need an alibi, im going to ask you to write it. Frayed Knot wrote: Ishii wasn't as bad as the trashing he's taken suggests, but he always seemed to have the bad inning that would ruin any good work he had done and blow his stats all to hell. This is a real BINGO. Ishii would look brilliant and then the wheels would fall off for just that one inning (if he was allowed to continue after it). I always thought this was a lack of focus, and wondered what it was that would cause it. Good list FK. Well thought out.

Frayed Knot wrote: Go ahead ... argue with that logic. ....Just gimme a couple of days to read it. I KID!

Yes, Ive heard Kiner tell the same stories of how he was shortchanged and given the runaround contract wise with the Pirates. And mistreated. Thank you for sharing that candid and detailed response Mr Thomas. You have my utmost respect.

thats a good argument JD. Hey KC, when u do it, u do it up good! I now have graphics envy.

Thanks again Mr Thomas. This has been informative and special.

01 Wright 02 Floyd 03 Martinez (Floyd & Pedro are tied at 2 IMO) 04 Reyes 05 Glavine 06 Piazza 07 Benson 08 Beltran 09 Seo 10 Cameron 11 R.Hernandez 12 Heilman 13 Anderson 14 Castro 15 Jacobs 16 Diaz 17 Looper 18 Padilla 19 Cairo 20 Zambrano 21 Mientkiewicz 22 Woodward 23 Matsui 24 Ishii 25 Koo 26 Bell 27 Offerman 28 DeJean 29 Aybar 30 Graves

Agreed Yancy. I lost an older brother over ten years ago, and that was bad enough. But to see what my folks went thu during that time...... That was the worst. So the NYPost puts Reardon on the front page in a Met uniform. Sometimes I wish I had a cat so I could line the litter box with that newspaper. Seriously^ But ya have to admit, moving Reardon so early in his career was another one of those awful Met trades, in retrospect. (I forgot about that one).

KC wrote: Interest in this seems to be less and less - I'll post my ranks before year end after I cross some i's and dot some t's. As noted in the first post, I edited the subject to make this the 2005 thread. I know they were rank, but why don't a couple of people take a crack at this for a hoot. I missed this 1st time around. Im interested and will post mine soon.

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I'd rather you found some better use of your time. I don't want to burden the UMDB server with trivial page loads. mmmmmm.... did I say I was serious,...lemme chk....... NOT! I was j/k Yancy