Zvon

See, this is tough to do for me because my favorite Met had always been such a fluid thing. I mean, if your wearin blue and orange you have a chance to reach that plateau. Your like 1/2 way there,lol. But Ill say this, and its an odd thing, but its the truth. Looking back now, Tom Seaver is up there top 5, but then, in the 70s, I,..... I took him for granted. He was Tom Terrific and he was there when i climbed aboard and he was always going to be there. And he was just so.......good in everyway. Even in his personal life, he was just.....I hate to say boring, but that may be how I felt. Now, with the wiseness of age, Ill say exemplary. My favorite pitchers at the time were Koosman and Matlack and Tugger. And its not that I didnt realize Tom was great. There was no question he was one of the best in all of MLB. Seaver was almost bigger than the Mets. So, I hate to say this, bit during Toms primo days with the Mets, I took him for granted. I didnt realize how much he truly meant to me as a Met until the moment he was gone. And that was a rude awakening.

He's about as gay as Macky Sasser.

Elster88 wrote: Why not? Forums are for arguing. Producing runs (either RBI or runs) is too dependent on the others on your team. They are not a great indicator of individual performance. lol. But an RBI dictates a direct contribution by an individual player. One that directly helps win games more so than say, a general batting average. RBIs are a good indicator of worth, imo. Up there on the list of what you want from a batter. Way up there.

Elster88 wrote: Don't read too much into RBI. You dont produce runs, especially when you need them, you dont win ball games. But Im not here to argue.

Farmer Ted wrote: That cheerleader has cankles. she should see a doctor for that.

A big factor would be when that vet does his thing. .280/20 can be big if delivered at the right time. You havent gone into RBIs, and thats a most important factor. Sayin I dunno there would cost you your G.M. gig in a flash. So Ill assume in your hypothetical this vet drives in 80, and in inconsequentail situations. Cause 80 in the right spot would change everything. If this new kid can deliver the goods and has at least 3 yrs of minor league stats that back that up, after the vets third season Id eat green crow and trade him before the season starts, and go with the kid.

Frayed Knot wrote: 6 - Trachsel: Nymr rewards Trax's 6 starts with 12 pts, while Zvon leaves him off the list entirely!! This was purely intentional. I was scoring on positives and negatives. Trax went negatively off the chart,lol.

New York Mets' manager Bobby Valentine wipes a tear from his eye moments before the start of the game against the Pittsburgh Pirates, September 17, 2001. The Met players wore baseball caps from the New York Police Department, Fire Department and EMS departments in tribute to those who died this past week in the New York City terrorist attacks. REUTERS/David DeNoma

Willets Point wrote: (damn I needed a shave) just in a spot or two,lol. Great pic. This next one is one of my favs. Its been posted here b4, but its worth repeating for this thread.

Apparently Bobby was into Japanese mannerisms earlier than I thought.

Elster88 wrote: Zvon do me a favor and photshop SP out of there. Bobby's a small man. lmaooooooooooo...laff a the day. (board wise, cuz u shouldnt have to compete with TDS & Colbert)

NEW YORK,28SEP99 - New York Mets manager Bobby Valentine throws water onto the field after starting pitcher Orel Hershiser (back L) allowed four runs to the Atlanta Braves before being relieved during the first inning at Shea Stadium in New York, September 28. The Mets, who are fighting for a wildcard playoff spot, have lost six straight games. ms/Photo by Mike Segar REUTERS

i miss him too. I really do.

Im finding most of these as we type.

talk about Hulkin out (Cook). Bobby was holdin him back.^ Original caption: NYM07D:SPORT-BASEBALL:NEW YORK,28SEP99 - New York Mets relief pitcher Dennis Cook ® argues with home plate umpire Alfonzo Marquez as he is restrained by Mets manager Bobby Valentine (L) after Marquez threw Cook out of the game shortly after Cook was relieved by Valentine in the eighth inning of the Mets' game against the Atlanta Braves in New York, September 28. Cook was upset with a pitch Marquez called a ball earlier in the inning. ms/Photo by Mike Segar REUTERS Bobby and Japanese Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori. With Turk, McEwing and Jones(hey

whoops, metirish has done that, my bad. Okay, he growls at a Cook:

these are great. Love the one of him barkin........with the dogs. Here he barks at an ump.

great pics Scarlett! this one would be good to caption:

Whats Bobby worried about? That his hat is out of style?

ScarletKnight41 wrote: You knew that I'd have one with MK, didn't you? (MK is the little one. His older brother, the upcoming Bar Mitzvah boy, is on the left.) course I did.

I like the look of this jacket. Looks like I can afford it, as in CHEAP! But no jokin, I think it looks kool.

I have alot of Bobby Valentine pics, but most seem to be small as opposed to nice big pics. Still, some nice shots though.

ya know, Ive visited the UMDB for many yrs, kinda on a hit and run basis when im looking for a stat or fact. Never really just spent time there. More recently I have, and I have to say the depth of the site is really amazing. But you guys all know that already. Just a nod to Yancy. *Z tips his hat*

cooby wrote: Edit: Same picture of Salty Parker lmao. Who was that guy? I mean, i know he managed the Mets for 7 games, thanks to UMDB, but who the 'ell was he?

this is bullshit. They even want to profit off stats as they happen? Thats rediculous. This is taking licencing a bit too far,imo.