Bring Back Ces

[Centerfield]

Whatever else you do, just bring back Ces.

[seawolf17]

Centerfield wrote: Whatever else you do, just bring back Ces.

Yes, definitely.

[Guest themetfairy]

Bring Back Yo!

[Benjamin Grimm]

The Mets, I think, have exclusive negotiating rights with Cespedes until the end of the World Series. I'd love to see this get resolved, with an extension for Cespedes, before anyone else gets a chance to talk to him. He says he wants to stay, so let's make it happen!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

He's signed.

Does he opt out, is the thing? (He will.)

[Benjamin Grimm]

Last year's thread on this very same topic: Re-sign Cespedes

[HahnSolo]

He'll definitely opt out, because at the very least I think he can get more in FA than what he's guaranteed the next two years.

But I think he likes it here, and I think a deal gets done.

[Centerfield]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The Mets, I think, have exclusive negotiating rights with Cespedes until the end of the World Series. I'd love to see this get resolved, with an extension for Cespedes, before anyone else gets a chance to talk to him. He says he wants to stay, so let's make it happen!

This is my hope too. I think a 2 year extension (from the remaining 2 years now) will get it done.

Actually, I don't know that, but I hope that. I hope that we are willing to offer that money, and I hope that he takes it. He does seem to genuinely like playing here.

[MFS62]

They'll have the money if he wants to renegotiate after opting out. There will be an extra $10 million available for raises and re-signings because I don't think they'll bring Walker back.

Later

[Centerfield]

MFS62 wrote: They'll have the money if he wants to renegotiate after opting out. There will be an extra $10 million available for raises and re-signings because I don't think they'll bring Walker back. Later

I think that money will be largely eaten up by arbitration raises etc. Plus, if they are extending, we aren't so much talking about 2017 as we are 2019-2021.

[ashie62]

200 million? Goodbye Yoyo

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2016/10/yoenis_cespedes_told_mets_people_he_wont_be_back_r.html#incart_river_index

[Benjamin Grimm]

This is the same kind of stuff we were hearing last year though, so who knows?

[Guest d'Kong76]

I don't think much happened on the field that will change the non-Mets
market climate for Yo. I think outside of us, he has a couple of big fat *'s
next to his name for potential suitors. Like last off-season, if someone
wants to pay him for a 6-7 year deal at big-big $$'s I'm willing to say
god bless and offer a friendly sayonara to the big guy!

I don't think that's gonna happen and he'll be a Met next year again.
How that happens exactly we'll just have to see.

[Ceetar]

d'Kong76 wrote: I don't think much happened on the field that will change the non-Mets market climate for Yo. I think outside of us, he has a couple of big fat *'s next to his name for potential suitors. Like last off-season, if someone wants to pay him for a 6-7 year deal at big-big $$'s I'm willing to say god bless and offer a friendly sayonara to the big guy! I don't think that's gonna happen and he'll be a Met next year again. How that happens exactly we'll just have to see.

I agree, he both proved himself to be an improving/better hitter than before AND cast some aspersions on his ability to stay healthy and on the field for a long contract.

[seawolf17]

d'Kong76 wrote: I don't think much happened on the field that will change the non-Mets market climate for Yo. I think outside of us, he has a couple of big fat *'s next to his name for potential suitors. Like last off-season, if someone wants to pay him for a 6-7 year deal at big-big $$'s I'm willing to say god bless and offer a friendly sayonara to the big guy! I don't think that's gonna happen and he'll be a Met next year again. How that happens exactly we'll just have to see.

All of this, yes. He'll be back.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'd bet if he does return it would be with a similarly structured deal, and would also say the market as a whole moves in this make-good direction given that as uncomfortable as it is for fans, its simply more economically agreeable for the clubs -- and it worked this time.

So not saying the Mets have the market cornered on 1/2 year, big $$AAA + opt-out/options, or that there still aren't clubs that will be willing to blow that out of the water with a multiyear guarantee, but that Cespedes might be choosing between such Met-like offers this time.

[ashie62]

Maybe the insurance money collected on David Wright can help keep Cespedes here.

[Centerfield]

Like super quiet here.

I think it's clear this won't get done by the end of the World Series. I fear he's gone.

[Frayed Knot]

Centerfield wrote: I fear he's gone.

He re-signed last year at the tail end of January.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, I'm not worried yet. Just because no news has leaked out it doesn't mean that conversations haven't been had. There's still about another two weeks to go with the Mets having exclusive rights to Cespedes.

[Gwreck]

Centerfield wrote: Like super quiet here. I think it's clear this won't get done by the end of the World Series. I fear he's gone.

Think about it the other way: if you were Cespedes, why would you sign now? Even if you wanted to come back to the Mets, you'd still leverage your position to get the best possible deal, which means have 30 teams bidding for your services, right?

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah, I'm not worried yet. Just because no news has leaked out it doesn't mean that conversations haven't been had. There's still about another two weeks to go with the Mets having exclusive rights to Cespedes.

well, sort of.

Cespedes is under contract. It's all but a foregone conclusion that he's going to opt out, but it's another wrinkle in negotiation. Balls in his court so to speak.

[Edgy MD]

Gwreck wrote: Like super quiet here. I think it's clear this won't get done by the end of the World Series. I fear he's gone. Think about it the other way: if you were Cespedes, why would you sign now? Even if you wanted to come back to the Mets, you'd still leverage your position to get the best possible deal, which means have 30 teams bidding for your services, right?

I think you'd sign because your team, knowing that their period of exclusivity is expiring, makes you the deal you are looking for based on an honest understanding of what you might get on the open market, and you, appreciating their good faith, and fearing they might withdraw that offer and move on if you don't share in that good faith and insist on shopping around, thus dampening the competition, happily sign.

I mean, plenty of folks sign extensions rather than hit the market.

[Lefty Specialist]

He'd be crazy not to opt out. It's a weak FA class and I'd have to think he could command at least 6/150 if not more.

Of course, i didn't think there was a chance in hell that they'd re-sign him last winter, so yaneverknow.

[ashie62]

Can we take all the free agent money and donate to charity where it might actually be useful?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Let the Nationals, Marlins, Phillies, and Braves do that.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Ashie62 wrote: Can we take all the free agent money and donate to charity where it might actually be useful?

You're all over the map, Ashie. A couple of weeks ago you were counting the
Wright insurance money to fork over to B B Ces...

[ashie62]

I know KC. Sometimes I wonder what the millions paid to marginal players could do for the world. But, thats true of showbiz and other stuff also.

Lisa's final days are coming near and I am more neurotic than usual.

I love Cespedes and believe he will remain a Met after some hand wringing.

I need to listen to LAMF.

[TransMonk]

Like super quiet here. I think it's clear this won't get done by the end of the World Series. I fear he's gone.

Buster Onley's Insider* headline this morning: Mets have the luxury to slow-play winter market with Cespedes

*I didn't link to the article because of its Insider-iness.

[Fman99]

Even if he opts out I think he'll end up in a Mets uni next year. He loves the city and ballpark and no one is backing up the truck for him at this age. It's basically the same thing as last off season.