IGT 10/05 - SF Giants @ NY Mets - Win or hit the links...

[Guest d'Kong76]

Bumgarner vs Syndergaard

[Lefty Specialist]

Nervous about a lefty-heavy lineup against Bumgarner. And Bochy won't hesitate to leave him in as long as possible to avoid that crappy bullpen of his. There'll be no pitch count worries in this game.

[bmfc1]

The Mets starting 1B is an interesting decision. I've seen Campbell's named mentioned (righty). Do you go with better defense (allegedly) with Loney or Duda and hope he can "getaholdaone"?

[Guest d'Kong76]

I'd be disappointed if Duda wasn't starting at 1B.

[seawolf17]

Career vs Bumgarner:

Duda: 0-1
Campbell: 1-5, 3 K
Loney: 2-13, 5 K (but zero AB since 2013)

Meh. Gotta go Duda.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I like and respect and admire the Thunder-Bringer. But this pitching matchup, it... does not favor us.

TOTALLY not trying to reverse-mojo us again. I TOTALLY think we're headed for disaster here. Again.

[Edgy MD]

Met hitters' career vs. Bumgarner: .189 / .261 / .238 // .499.

The good news is that this year it's .279 / .367 / .372 // .739. The bad news is that even with those numbers from this year folded in, .189 / .261 / .238 // .499 is still .189 / .261 / .238 // .499. He's 5-0 with a 1.80 ERA. He's Sandy Koufax against them. They got to him back on August 18, but the Giants got to Jacob deGrom worse. In fact, without double checking, I'm going to go out and state that it was the worst outing of deGrom's career. Gave up 13 hits, including a homer to Bumgarner.

But this isn't about deGrom. He's hurt. It's about getting to Bumgarner. In that 8/18 start, he gave up the only homer by a Met of his career. It came off the bat of Justin Ruggiano.

And he's hurt too.

This is going to be a tall order.

[Chad ochoseis]

Bumgarner's ERA since August 1: 4.03.

We got this.

[Edgy MD]

I'm afraid that the choice expressed in this thread title might compromise Yoenis Céspedes' motivation.

[Frayed Knot]

Chad Ochoseis wrote: Bumgarner's ERA since August 1: 4.03.

Giants also 9-11 over Bumgarner's last 20 starts.

[Lefty Specialist]

Well, there's also that small matter of Bumgarner being the best post-season pitcher, like, ever.

[Ceetar]

Lefty Specialist wrote: Well, there's also that small matter of Bumgarner being the best post-season pitcher, like, ever.

small-sample hubbub. Thor is a Cy Young candidate, if not the winner outright.

You gotta start Duda, who's actually good, versus Campbell, who's just not, and Loney who's average on a good day. Duda hasn't really had lefty AB this year, but last year he was actually better verse them.

this is gonna be a stressful game and I'm hoping not to be at the third consecutive postseason elimination for the Mets.

[G-Fafif]

Fuck Bumgarner. Fuck Even Year. Fuck the Giants.

Let's Go Mets.

[seawolf17]

G-Fafif wrote: Fuck Bumgarner. Fuck Even Year. Fuck the Giants. Let's Go Mets.

EX-FUCKING-XACTLY. LET'S DO THIS.

[Centerfield]

Chad Ochoseis wrote: Bumgarner's ERA since August 1: 4.03. We got this.

He's way, way overrated. Pedestrian pitcher in the second half. All that post-season resume crap is just small sample size. He's a good pitcher, but it's a shit lineup.

We jump on him for 3 in the first, and slowly pull away from there. The only drama that the night will feature is whether Terry should pull Syndergaard early with the Mets leading by 8.

Chicago is going to piss their pants on Wednesday, because they know what's coming for them.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Edgy MD wrote: I'm afraid that the choice expressed in this thread title might compromise Yoenis Céspedes' motivation.

Hah! Good one...

[TransMonk]

Let's make MADBUM look like Steve Parris.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

1. Syndy needs to keep us in the game. I'm fairly CAHNfident he can do this as SFG ain't a Powerhouse offensive club but rather a balanced-attack kinda team. They don't whiff alot or hit a lotta HRs. They ran the bases like crazy on Syndergaard earlier this year.

2. Can't make any errors. This by the way has not been a pressing concern of mine virtually all year, that is an under-appreciated result of the Muffy Effect. But as noted SFG puts the ball in play a lot.

3. We gotta get Buttgardener off the mound asap. He's basically like their best starter, best 7th inning guy, best 8th inning guy and best closer, they just might keep him out there all day. I wouldn't necessarily disapprove a secret plan to knock him off the plate while batting too.

[Centerfield]

Yup. Claw or scratch to keep it tied until we get to that bullpen. Then score 20.

[G-Fafif]

seawolf17 wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Fuck Bumgarner. Fuck Even Year. Fuck the Giants. Let's Go Mets. EX-FUCKING-XACTLY. LET'S DO THIS.

A Happy New Year it will be.

[seawolf17]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: They ran the bases like crazy on Syndergaard earlier this year.

This was probably my biggest concern. However, in the two games against the Giants -- they stole four bases on Plawecki in May, but were 0-for-2 against Rivera in August.

[Benjamin Grimm]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: 3. We gotta get Buttgardener off the mound asap.

Yes. And it won't be easy to do this by running up his pitch count as you might in a regular season game against a 23-year-old pitcher. They'll probably let him throw 130 or 140 pitches if necessary.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: 3. We gotta get Buttgardener off the mound asap. Yes. And it won't be easy to do this by running up his pitch count as you might in a regular season game against a 23-year-old pitcher. They'll probably let him throw 130 or 140 pitches if necessary.

It's Bumgarner so he can hit some, but it'd still be nice to try to hold onto a lead and force them to pinch-hit for him. He's 0/22 in the playoffs overall.

[Zvon]

I'll be keeping score. I predict no errors (or I'll need to redesign the border).

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[Centerfield]

Holy crap. Still more than 48 hours left to go until game time.

I know the rest probably does us good, but man, let's play this fucking game.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I don't know. I'm enjoying the respite. I didn't watch any of yesterday's game, and I'm glad not to have anything to worry about today either.

I'll probably start getting a little antsy tomorrow and getting through the day on Wednesday will be a challenge.

[Zvon]

Bumgarner's great post season portfolio means only one thing to me. He's due for an asskickin'.

I think Thor is a head strong guy and that's a good trait in a pitcher, but I do wish he would accept the fact that he has to do something about what base runners are doing to him. I mean, all that would take is a better move to first, right?

That's all I'm worried about, base runners going wild. But if Syndergaard don't let em reach first then it won't be a problem.

[ashie62]

Pitch counts off.

Vegas has the Mets as the slightest of favorites -115

[Gwreck]

Umpires:
HP - Mike Winters
1B - Jeff Nelson
2B - Mike Everitt
3B - Jim Wolf
LF - CB Bucknor
RF - Quinn Wolcott
Replay: Scott Barry and Mark Carlson

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Im still working on a strategy to watch this one as it happens to fall on Wifey Buckets birthday