New Deal for Terry

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Two-year extension, says Carig.

[soupcan]

Geez, if I'm Terry I'm thinking about leaving. I'm old and this job is stressful.

On the other hand - these guys could take me to the promised land rather quickly.

[Guest El Segundo Escupidor]

[Benjamin Grimm]

Not surprised.

Not pleased.

[Zvon]

Terry deserves to ride this wave of pitchers the next few years. Hopefully, he goes out on top.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Cutting back on bonehead pitching changes would be a smart step towards that goal.

[Centerfield]

I'll hold off on commenting until my anger dissipates a bit. I know that Terry did a great job overall, but the sting of his bonehead moves in the post-season, and most specifically the last 3 games is still too fresh in my mind.

But as mentioned, no surprise at all. I mean, the guy won the pennant. We're lucky he didn't get 3 years.

[TransMonk]

I haven't been the biggest Terry fan over the years, but I'm more than OK with the two year deal.

I think Terry has gotten better at managing each season. That's big for a manager since it seems like most of them like to be know-it-all experts that never evolve or learn on the job.

[Guest 86-Dreamer]

TransMonk wrote: I haven't been the biggest Terry fan over the years, but I'm more than OK with the two year deal. I think Terry has gotten better at managing each season. That's big for a manager since it seems like most of them like to be know-it-all experts that never evolve or learn on the job.

this sums it up nicely for me

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I've come around a little on Terry. Although I still get mad at him when our guys don't execute, day to day he rarely gets outmaneuvered by the other manager, and he has terrific goodwill with the media - I mean, they absolutely love him, and that helps to establish authority and continuity with our youngish team. I'd like to see the club get better at the little things now, and hope he's held accountable for that going forward.

Given our success this year I suppose the only way he'd go would be of his own accord anyway, but did not think we'd see the prospect of him outlasting the front office guys, but now there's a chance he might.

[Lefty Specialist]

I'd rather have him than Dusty Baker.

I'm OK with the 2-year deal. It's all he wants anyway since he's talking about retiring after that. He's the manager of the National League champions; of course he's going to get an extension.

[Edgy MD]

Any announcements with regard to the staff? I tend to think Geren is gone.

Go ahead. Make Wally bench coach. I dare you.

[metirish]

No surprise , the players play for him and he seems to leave them alone .....

[Fman99]

I'm fine with this. He took them to the World Series. Give him another shot with this group of guys. See what his encore is.

[Frayed Knot]

Coming up as he was on the final year of his contract (option year actually) the club was pretty much forced into doing something seeing as how allowing a pennant winning manager to enter the next season in full lame-duck status is probably the poorest option out there. That leaves either extending him or, in effect, firing him and the latter certainly isn't a good move pr-wise, particularly absent some outstanding candidate ready to take over.

[MFS62]

Watching Terry manage a game is like watching a drunk go through an entire book of matches before he finally lights his cigarette with his last match. He gets the desired results, but sometimes it is painful watching him do it. He sure makes the IGTs interesting.

Later

[Edgy MD]

Does anybody feel the same?

[seawolf17]

Fman99 wrote: I'm fine with this. He took them to the World Series. Give him another shot with this group of guys. See what his encore is.

Me too. He seems to be a good fit with this team.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Likable enough to keep around and root for... but not so much on the strategic end.

He gets in his way a little less than he used to... until things get froggy, in which case it's fucking Overmanagement Jamboree time. From a lineup construction/day-to-day standpoint, he's not bad, although the inability to manage platoons effectively is particularly infuriating. (And it'll really burn if we end up trying to replace YoYo's production on the cheap, as you might suspect.)

Edited November 4, 2015 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

If he makes it to the end of this two-year contract, he will have managed more Mets games than anyone in the club's history. (Never would have guess that when he was hired.) Two full seasons would put him at 1,134.

Davey Johnson 1012
Bobby Valentine 1003
Terry Collins 810

Passing Davey Johnson in wins is possible, but won't be easy. He'd have to average 101 wins over the next two years. (And how great would that be?)

Davey Johnson 595
Bobby Valentine 536
Terry Collins 394

Meanwhile, he's just about certain to become the losingest manager in Mets history. He'll probably pass Davey Johnson and Joe Torre in his first couple of weeks. (Hopefully not sooner than that.) It will take 52 losses to pass Bobby Valentine for the record. And if he avoids 52 losses in 2016, he'll certainly be invited back for 2017.

Bobby Valentine 467
Joe Torre 420
Davey Johnson 417
Terry Collins 416

[seawolf17]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It will take 52 losses to pass Bobby Valentine for the record.

THEN I GUESS THAT RECORD IS SAFE UNTIL 2017.

LET'S FUCKIN' WIN THIS THING, TERRY.