Re-Sign Reyes NOW!!!!

[metirish]

Ashie62 wrote: Alderson just scuttled this on the pre-game.

He would though wouldn't he?

[ashie62]

metirish wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Alderson just scuttled this on the pre-game. He would though wouldn't he?

Yeah..more disinformation than a military operation.

[seawolf17]

Seven years, $100 million plus a crapton of incentives that push it over $150M.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Jose's next contract has to be looking a lot less lucrative now than it did two and a half months ago, right?

Two injuries (and it sounds like a third on the way) and he's now well past that superhuman stretch with which he opened the season.

I really have no clue as to how this will play out. (I think the Mets have a shot at signing Jose during the exclusive negotiating period, but geez, who the hell really knows?)

Mets' Reyes resistant to running By DAN MARTIN Last Updated: 8:24 AM, September 14, 2011 Jose Reyes had three more hits last night and scored the Mets' first run in a 3-2 loss to the Nationals at Citi Field, but he still has just one stolen base since returning from the disabled list on Aug. 29 -- and he hasn't tripled since July 21. Reyes admitted his lack of aggression on the basepaths is because he still is unsure of the left hamstring that has landed him on the DL twice this season. "It's not the same," Reyes said after the Mets dropped their fourth straight game and sixth in seven. "Earlier in the season I was healthy. I feel like my leg is not quite there yet. It's not where it needs to be." Reyes did not attempt a stolen base again last night. "It's good enough to play," Reyes said. "I'll give you everything that I have. It is hard, but I can get through it." He hasn't given up the idea that he will feel like himself by the end of the season. "I hope so," said Reyes, who is batting .331 and again said he is not thinking about his battle with Milwaukee's Ryan Braun for the NL batting crown. Terry Collins understands Reyes' attitude. "I've emphasized he's gotta stay healthy and stay in the lineup," the manager said. "We talk every single day about it."

[Ceetar]

It seems like this all might be the same injury, and he's just a slow healer. Tightness in his hamstring that just isn't clearing up. I wonder if there's something in his pregame/workout routine that can minimize the strain there.

If he can play through it though, maybe it's just something that can be managed with some good rest days. I mean, he's hitting .300 with a hit practically every day since returning from the DL. he was on base three times yesterday.

I've thought Alderson will get it down in the exclusive window (which ends up being like 5-6 weeks right? no reason they can't negotiate during the playoffs) all along, and I think the nagging injuries help take away the chance of someone hinting that they'll offer him the moon if he waits for FA. He seems to genuinely want to stay here, so he probably would if they make him something approaching what they expect.

[Edgy MD]

Alderson lost out by not coming harder after him before the season, but then Reyes lost out when his agent rebuffed the team when they tried to negotiate mid-season.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

So, that makes it even!

5/95 with bonuses! Do it!

[Centerfield]

You know, I wonder if Reyes had signed a huge extension in July whether people would be saying he's already slacking off.

[Edgy MD]

Sure as the sun's gon' shine.

[Benjamin Grimm]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: 5/95 with bonuses! Do it!

I think he'll get less than that. My guess, around $16 to $17 million per year, over five or six years.

I have no idea from whom, though. Could be the Mets.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: 5/95 with bonuses! Do it! I think he'll get less than that. My guess, around $16 to $17 million per year, over five or six years. I have no idea from whom, though. Could be the Mets.

If I had to guess, he'd get about 16 a year with bonuses up to 20, and 5 years, with a mutual option for a 6th.

[ashie62]

Can ya just sign the 1st half of 2011 Jose Reyes???

[Benjamin Grimm]

Jayson Stark, ESPN.com wrote: The buzz coming out of Flushing is that the Mets have very little interest in waiting around this winter for Jose Reyes to decide whether to stay or bolt. One source who's tight with the Mets brass tells Rumblings they're "either going to be in or out real quick." The Mets' baseball people haven't met yet to lay out their offseason game plan. But if Reyes' preference is to test the market, collect offers and then ask the Mets to counter, there are indications that the Mets don't want to play by that script. And Reyes' lackluster second half (.277/.316/.378, with only six stolen-base ATTEMPTS) only figures to reinforce their reluctance to do anything crazy right out of the chute to keep him from exploring the market.

[metirish]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Jayson Stark, ESPN.com wrote: The buzz coming out of Flushing is that the Mets have very little interest in waiting around this winter for Jose Reyes to decide whether to stay or bolt. One source who's tight with the Mets brass tells Rumblings they're "either going to be in or out real quick." The Mets' baseball people haven't met yet to lay out their offseason game plan. But if Reyes' preference is to test the market, collect offers and then ask the Mets to counter, there are indications that the Mets don't want to play by that script. And Reyes' lackluster second half (.277/.316/.378, with only six stolen-base ATTEMPTS) only figures to reinforce their reluctance to do anything crazy right out of the chute to keep him from exploring the market.

I'm not opposed to that , I'd like a quick resolution too. There are a lot of holes to fill and no point wasting time on a "will he, won't he" scenario.

[Ceetar]

Rubin made THREE different allusions to Reyes leaving yesterday. This is why I don't read him (except apparently this morning. )

[metirish]

Alserson in the booth , October is "Jose month", thinks about him all the time....

[Edgy MD]

Can't hurt, I guess things, I guess. (Though maybe it can.)

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2011/09/25/2011-09-25_straw_stay_in_nyc_jose.html#ixzz1Z1KGkSOv

NY Mets great Darryl Strawberry says Jose Reyes should stay, as he would have if he got 2nd chance BY PETER BOTTE DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Sunday, September 25th 2011, 4:00 AM Darryl Strawberry regrettably bolted the Mets for his hometown Dodgers as a free agent after the 1990 season. He doesn't want to see history repeat itself with Jose Reyes. "I know if I had to do it all over again, I would have stayed," Strawberry said before the Mets won, 2-1, in the opener of Saturday's day-night doubleheader at Citi Field against the Phillies before taking the nightcap, 6-3. "It looks good on the other side, but it's not always as good as the place that you're used to. When you're young, you don't realize that. For me, I was young and I didn't realize what New York meant to me. "So tell Jose that New York is a great place. No matter what, it's a great place to play. No matter what you have to go through, how difficult it gets, this is the place where you want to play." Strawberry was at Citi to sign autographs and promote the release of "All-Stars for Charities Fruit Snacks" to benefit his Fight for Autism Foundation. The star-crossed former Mets and Yankees slugger hasn't spoken to Reyes - who did not play in the second game - about his pending free agency, but he made it clear he believes the Mets shouldn't let the All-Star shortstop and possible NL batting champion slip away this winter. "No question about it, being a homegrown player, being an exciting player as he is, for Mets fans, you would hope something good will work out for both sides," Strawberry said. "He's a really exciting player. You're not going to find too many players in the game that are more exciting. It's a tough situation to be in. "I'm not saying (he should take less money to stay). I have nothing to do with that. All I could say is I would love to see him stay. New York loves him, the Mets fans love him, all the players love him, we love the way he plays. I just hope that things work out for both sides and he continues to play here." Strawberry admits now that he made a mistake, but says he "was just personally fed up with (Mets) management" when deciding to sign a five-year, $20 million deal with his hometown Dodgers before the 1991 season. He averaged 33 homers over his first eight seasons with the Mets, but totaled just 83 over the next 10 years - including 24 on the Yankees' 1998 World Series championship team - amid intermittent battles with substance abuse and other off-field problems. "You're young and you're stupid, too. You make stupid decisions," the 49-year-old Strawberry said. "You don't realize at the time, but when you look back on it, you realize that was so stupid. What was I thinking to leave New York to go to L.A. or anywhere? "This is the greatest place to play, the greatest fans. Are the expectations high? Is the media tough? Yeah. You just have to learn to live with that. "But it's a different type of feeling after you've played here for so long and been successful here. You appreciate it more than just another player that comes along, or in other places. The fans here never forget. It's incredible. And Jose has a chance to do that. He's a remarkable player and he's had some wonderful years and done some wonderful things and he still has a chance to do some great things before his career is all over with." Asked if he's considered talking to Strawberry or other high-profile players who've been through the free-agency process, Reyes said: "Everything is a consideration. Like I always say, I don't want to leave here. I want to stay here. But at the same time, I don't know, like I told you guys. The decision is not over yet. I don't want to talk with people during the season. I want to play baseball with my head clear and not think about anything." Reyes, who is locked in a close battle with Ryan Braun and Triple Crown threat Matt Kemp in the NL batting race, is hitting .330 after going 1-for-3 with a walk in the opener.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

It occurs to me that if he were at Citi (as he was) and wanted to actually express a message to Jose (as he purported to), he might rather take a staircase/elevator to the clubhouse than speak to a reporter writing the sort of article that Jose likely strenuously avoids reading.

[Edgy MD]

Sending messages to each other through the media, despite the easy availability of face-to-face contact, is a time-honored --- if not particularly courageous --- tradition among ballplayers.

[Vic Sage]

Edgy DC wrote: Sending messages to each other through the media, despite the easy availability of face-to-face contact, is a time-honored --- if not particularly courageous --- tradition among ballplayers.

IMO, Straw's statements to the media have absolutely nothing to do with trying to send Reyes a message and everything to do with Straw's ongoing efforts to repair his own fatally damaged reputation. "oh, i loved NY, what was i thinking to ever leave?" is not career guidance, its PR.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I spent time last week with a former New York sports reporter who covered the Mets for a while in the Omar era. He said his gut feeling was that some team was going to offer Reyes stupid money that that Mets would not match. He said Alderson is "too smart" to throw crazy money at a player who is so prone to injuries.

That was just his gut feeling from knowing the people involved.

I tried to avoid pestering him with too many Mets questions, but he did say that Dickey was as nice a guy as you can imagine. Piazza, too.

[Ceetar]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I spent time last week with a former New York sports reporter who covered the Mets for a while in the Omar era. He said his gut feeling was that some team was going to offer Reyes stupid money that that Mets would not match. He said Alderson is "too smart" to throw crazy money at a player who is so prone to injuries. That was just his gut feeling from knowing the people involved. I tried to avoid pestering him with too many Mets questions, but he did say that Dickey was as nice a guy as you can imagine. Piazza, too.

That of course, leaves out the idea that the Mets could very well sign him well before he's even allowed to talk to other teams. Can Reyes bank on some team throwing stupid money his way and wait out a very good offer from the Mets? I think not.

[metirish]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I spent time last week with a former New York sports reporter who covered the Mets for a while in the Omar era. He said his gut feeling was that some team was going to offer Reyes stupid money that that Mets would not match. He said Alderson is "too smart" to throw crazy money at a player who is so prone to injuries. That was just his gut feeling from knowing the people involved. I tried to avoid pestering him with too many Mets questions, but he did say that Dickey was as nice a guy as you can imagine. Piazza, too.

Ok, who was it?, who's your source deep throat?


Ian O'Connor , can't imagine you would spend time with his though

T'J' Quinn......may have been gone by the time Omar got there

[Edgy MD]

Just my opinion, but I imagine back channel tampering goes on all the time.

[TransMonk]

I've had the feeling since spring that some team would offer him stupid money that the Mets won't match.

I still feel that way.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Just my opinion, but I imagine back channel tampering goes on all the time.

Probably. Think they get explicit though, or is it just "wink wink, we REALLY like that Jose guy. you guys close to something with the mets?"

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Ok, who was it?, who's your source deep throat? Ian O'Connor , can't imagine you would spend time with his though T'J' Quinn......may have been gone by the time Omar got there

I can only imagine what a conversation with Ian O'Connor would be like....we'd be brawling within moments.

I was at an education writer's conference, if that's a clue.

[metirish]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Ok, who was it?, who's your source deep throat? Ian O'Connor , can't imagine you would spend time with his though T'J' Quinn......may have been gone by the time Omar got there I can only imagine what a conversation with Ian O'Connor would be like....we'd be brawling within moment. I was at an education writer's conference, if that's a clue.

Ha, the guy from the Times.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

metirish wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: Ok, who was it?, who's your source deep throat? Ian O'Connor , can't imagine you would spend time with his though T'J' Quinn......may have been gone by the time Omar got there I can only imagine what a conversation with Ian O'Connor would be like....we'd be brawling within moment. I was at an education writer's conference, if that's a clue. Ha, the guy from the Times.

He was very nice!

[Vic Sage]

TransMonk wrote: I've had the feeling since spring that some team would offer him stupid money that the Mets won't match. I still feel that way.

ditto.